RkyMtnHigh 0 #26 August 20, 2006 right...that's not the real work if any...it's "therapists"going thru the motions having them go thru the number of courses to check off the list...and show the court or whoever that they satisfied the requirements...but really nothing is accomplished in my opinion. It's simply an exercise in futility. True Anger management needs a lot more of one on one psychotherapy and resorting back to the source...etc...but the government isnt at that point yet unfortunately...they just want to create a hassle factor and call it good. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmittar 0 #27 August 20, 2006 Maybe they just have a system of weeding out the people that have no intention of either recognizing or working on their issues. Therapy isn't a monologue. Trust me, we all have issues that could benefit from therapy. |>.<| Seriously, W.T.F. mate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #28 August 20, 2006 QuoteTrust me, we all have issues that could benefit from therapy. I dont think there is anything that this guy could help me with that a long talk with my good friend in the back yard while I burn a steak on the grill couldnt accomplish for free.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #29 August 20, 2006 depends on the friend really.. few friends are as honest and objective as a therapist. Those that are, because they actually care about you and wish to see you PROGRESS not STAGNATE, are your TRUE friends, but they are often the ones that get pushed away as well..... edit: one example.. I have a friend (i still consider him my friend even if he doesnt) who has Anger Management issues.. we used to be ALOT alike.. when he was fired for his behavior (even though he was provoked) he claimed he didnt need help either... so i asked him (after getting into a fight actually, not the best method of therapy but im not a therapist) why he was so pissed off... he still didnt/doesnt know... but its because his buttons are so big and obvious and easily pressed that the rest of the assholes in the world can set him off at will.... ultimately.. WHO is in control? you? or them? if YOU are the angry one.. your answer is incorrect.....____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #30 August 20, 2006 You know of course that he is going to generate a report on the results of the meetings to your HR asshats...what do you want that report to say?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #31 August 20, 2006 QuoteYou know of course that he is going to generate a report on the results of the meetings to your HR asshats...what do you want that report to say? ...which they can't legally do without his consent. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #32 August 20, 2006 QuoteYou know of course that he is going to generate a report on the results of the meetings to your HR asshats...what do you want that report to say? By the time that all gets back to HR I will be gone.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt1215 0 #33 August 20, 2006 Funny you posted this thread yesterday, I almost had an AM incident myself. The base hired a bunch of rent-a-cops to augment at the gates, and my number came up yesterday for vehicle inspection. The guy's attitude, along with the way he handled himself and the situation, I damn near handed his ass to him. I settled with telling him that his attitude stank and hit the gym. **Edit for spelling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #34 August 20, 2006 QuoteI settled with telling him that his attitude stank and hit the gym. I in the last few days have been hitting the gun range a lot. Nothing like blowing th hell out of some targets to get your mind off things. Went trap shooting yesterday. 275 rounds from my Ithica and my shoulder is just a little sore today. Havent shot trap in about 4 years. Man did I suck! But it sure was fun.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #35 August 20, 2006 QuoteBy the time that all gets back to HR I will be gone. In IT, there is an expression, "You can have a ponytail, but you need to be really good." People wear ponytails as a symbol that "Yeah, I live in the corporate environment, but I am expressing my independence." Managers don't need the attitude. They are all stocked up on problems. They need someone who will do their job and not add chaos. If you add a level of problems for your co-workers, it gets old very quick. They are sending you to an AM therapist for one of two reasons: 1- HR policy requires it before they fire you. 2- They are actively trying to work with you. Either way, it is an opportunity. I know another person who is currently f-ing up their personal and professional life with their attitude. It isn't helping them to alienate others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #36 August 20, 2006 QuoteEither way, it is an opportunity. I know another person who is currently f-ing up their personal and professional life with their attitude. It isn't helping them to alienate others. In 2 years this is the first incident that I have had. No write ups. Just letters of appreciation and awards. I dont care what the reason is, the other guy should have been sent home to but since he is in the good ole boy club he was given a free pass. This has been going on for some time now. The turnover rate this place has got I believe is proof to there failure in management unfair policy then enforce upon us. One guy gets this, but the next gets nothing. I will do this with a smile and in now 7 weeks when I am at my next job be smiling and laughing the entire way. I will also have the last laugh when my next employer has the next round of hiring in November and I take almost my entire crew with me. Lets see how they like an entire crew quitting at the same time. I have learned a great lesson here and that is how not to treat my co-workers and employees.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #37 August 20, 2006 I am really, really curious as to why you won't bother to answer the questions asked. It doesn't matter, in the long run, what you say here...you're leaving anyway. So why worry? I realize you're not a fan of therapists. But I have to tell you, friends, like Zen said, generally don't come in the flavor of therapist. I am blessed to have several friends who can be objective and tell me things I don't want to hear, and we remain friends. One of the great things a therapist can provide is an objective perspective; one which those who are our friends can't, or won't, in general. Because of that, they can be invaluable. You don't think you have a problem. You may not. You may, though. Know what would suck? Wasting an opportunity to learn a bit about yourself (know that it's only a bit; 6 sessions isn't a lot). Why waste the time? Why not learn a bit about yourself? If you disagree, then don't use the info. If you see something which might benefit, then grab it with both hands. You're going to have to be there for 6 sessions...so why not? It's free, it might create value for your life, and you have to be there anyway. So why not take advantage of it? Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #38 August 20, 2006 I would like to nominate this thread for the Dropzone.com Irony Award for 2006."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmittar 0 #39 August 20, 2006 From all your posts, I really don't see any need for anger management for you. It would be a total waste of time as you're as calm and collected and in control as anyone I've ever met. |>.<| Seriously, W.T.F. mate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmittar 0 #40 August 20, 2006 QuoteI would like to nominate this thread for the Dropzone.com Irony Award for 2006. Quoted for truth |>.<| Seriously, W.T.F. mate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #41 August 20, 2006 Thread title: Anger Management QuoteI in the last few days have been hitting the gun range a lot. Why does this not give me a warm, secure feeling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #42 August 20, 2006 QuoteWhy does this not give me a warm, secure feeling? Oh it's not that. It's just a hobby that I havent done in some time. Shoot some paper, kill some clay pigeons. Great fun!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #43 August 20, 2006 Quote...talking with this dousche QuoteI was more pissed off then when I walked in Quote All this dick wanted to try Quoteif I didnt have to work with assholes QuoteI wouldnt be pissed half the time Quoteshould I be as stuborn as I usually am? I think you should talk honestly to the doctor and see if you can benefit from free therapy. A calm person doesn't have the same thought processes that you have and they don't refer to people in such a derogatory manner. Think about it. And, just remember that when you are pointing a finger at the other guy, you have three more fingers pointing right back at you.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #44 August 20, 2006 QuoteAnd, just remember that when you are pointing a finger at the other guy, you have three more fingers pointing right back at you. Damn you moms for having logical thought! Trust me when I say I dont need this guy to tell me why I did what I did. I have never had anything like this happen before. I blame the work enviroment and me not being in the little group that only a few get to be in with the upper managment.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #45 August 20, 2006 Rookie, I know I cracked a few jokes about your AM sessions in the beginning of this thread. Reading the past bunch of posts have made me look at this in a completely different light. You say you're getting married soon. Anger and your reaction to it does not limit itself to just your career. Like Michele and others said; take advantage of this time. You might learn some really valuable skills that you can bring into your marriage, if not the current job you're in. For the record, I was management. There really had to be a nasty and inappropriate scene for an employee to be sent to mandatory anger management. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #46 August 20, 2006 QuoteFor the record, I was management. There really had to be a nasty and inappropriate scene for an employee to be sent to mandatory anger management. I only had a argument with the guy. about 6 months ago a guy grabbed another by the throat and started to wail on him. But since he was in the little group all that happened was he got a letter in his file and 3 days off. No BS class. I dont get it.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #47 August 20, 2006 QuoteFor the record, I was management. There really had to be a nasty and inappropriate scene for an employee to be sent to mandatory anger management. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I only had a argument with the guy. about 6 months ago a guy grabbed another by the throat and started to wail on him. But since he was in the little group all that happened was he got a letter in his file and 3 days off. No BS class. I dont get it. I believe you when you say there is no sense of fairness where you work. Managers aren't perfect either. I'm just suggesting that it can't hurt to answer the therapists questions. You gotta be there, you might as well make the most of it. If you think he/she is hitting you with mumbo jumbo from your childhood, ask him why? Make it more of a civil conversation between the two of you. Have an open mind. You just may learn some valuable tools that will benefit you in your marriage. Just my .02.Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #48 August 20, 2006 QuoteI believe you when you say there is no sense of fairness where you work. Managers aren't perfect either. I'm just suggesting that it can't hurt to answer the therapists questions. You gotta be there, you might as well make the most of it. If you think he/she is hitting you with mumbo jumbo from your childhood, ask him why? Make it more of a civil conversation between the two of you. Have an open mind. You just may learn some valuable tools that will benefit you in your marriage. I'll blame it on internet porn! To much of Jenna Jameson!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #49 August 21, 2006 Calm Down Sir. SIR . . . Please calm down! SIR!! CALM DOWN, SIR!! SIR, CALM DOWN NOW SIR!!! I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #50 August 21, 2006 I am a very peaceful and passive person. Some people have told me that I must be bottling up my anger and thus have anger management issues. I tell them that bottling my anger is a way of managing it. This way when I really should be angry I'll have alot of it around. That sounds like a logical way of managing anger to me. Tell them that you are managing your anger, you wanted to stab the man numerous times but restrained yourself and simply verbally assaulted him (the physical contact was not meant as an assualt but to remove him from your personal space that he was trespassing). Make sure you say this with an innocent smile that gives the impression that you are very proud of yourself in dealing with your anger correctly. If he continues to ask about your past then begin to give accurate accounts in chronological order of each instance where your coworkers have made you angry until he realizes he too would have been angry. If this doesn't work then begin doing things to make him angry and when he becomes angry say to him in a calm voice that he should seek anger management classes."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites