Icon134 0 #1 August 21, 2006 I am constantly having to troubleshoot, adjust, settings on my computer in order to get windows file sharing to work between my two computers... and it really gets on my fucking nerves... That's all... I'm annoyed... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #2 August 21, 2006 Would it make you feel better if I told you that I don't know what the fuck you are talking about? That's how computer retarded I am. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 August 21, 2006 Call me next time and I can have it fixed for you. If you need networking gear let me know and I'll bring parts to the DZ and you can take all you want from the box.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #4 August 21, 2006 Are you running XP Pro or XP Home? (or other?) We run both Pro and Home in our office. Pro works much, much better from a file sharing perspective. The computers that run Home are always having problems. I think Microsift did this on purpose to get more people pay the $100 upgrade to pro. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #5 August 21, 2006 I have XP Pro on both systems... my file sharing is back up now... it seems that a reboot of both computers was sufficient to "fix" the problem. at least until it stops working again... I'd just as soon not have to do that though... and Phree... definetely bring the box some time... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #6 August 21, 2006 How have you got the machines connected? Are you using Netbios or TCP/IP? Do you have a DNS server on your network? A domain controller? Do the machines have static or dynamic IP addresses? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sd-slider 0 #7 August 22, 2006 What kind of cans are you using? Is the string tight? . .Anvil Brother #69 Sidelined with a 5mm C5-C6 herniated disk... Back2Back slammers and 40yr old fat guys don't mix! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #8 August 22, 2006 I have the same issue every time I try to give rights to a folder to someone at work. I mean WHY on earth should I have to give them permissions in file sharing AND in the security tab. And at that it still won't work half of the time! ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,471 #9 August 22, 2006 QuoteBy default, simple file sharing is enabled on a Microsoft Windows XP-based computer if the computer is not a member of a domain. With simple file sharing, you can share folders with everyone on your workgroup or network and make folders in your user profile private. However, if simple file sharing is enabled, you cannot prevent specific users and groups from accessing your shared folders. If you turn off simple file sharing, you can permit specific users and groups to access a shared folder. Those users must be logged on with the credentials of user accounts that you have granted access to your shared folder. If simple file sharing is enabled, you see the simple file sharing user interface appears instead of the Security and Sharing tabs. By default, this new user interface is implemented in Windows XP Home Edition and in Microsoft Windows XP Professional if you are working in a workgroup. If you turn off simple file sharing, the classic Security and Sharing tabs appear, and you can specify which users and groups have access to shared folders on your computer. Note To allow for specific users to access the share folder after the simple file sharing is disabled, you should configure both the NTFS permissions on the Security tab and the share permission on the Sharing tab of the share folder. NTFS permissions can only be set on a partition using NTFS file system. If you remove the Every Group from the NTFS permission, you cannot access the share folder over the network. Source: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307874/Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #10 August 22, 2006 If only it were that easy.... it never is! ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #11 August 22, 2006 Field these questions one at at time... Quote How have you got the machines connected? I have a Dlink Router one of the computers is on the LAN the other is connected wirelessly... but I had the same problems (when they were both on the LAN) at least until I re-disabled the default windows firewall and rebooted both systems. (as it happens they were both connected to the LAN at that time...) QuoteAre you using Netbios or TCP/IP?I kind of thought I had both of them enabled... but it would seem I only have TCP/IP active... QuoteDo you have a DNS server on your network? I believe the router is designed to act as the DNS for my local network... but I don't have a dedicated DNS for the two computers on my network... QuoteA domain controller? um... no (although again I think the router does that...) and with two computers it seems a bit of overkill to have another computer in the mix to add confusion... they are both in the same workgroup... QuoteDo the machines have static or dynamic IP addresses? I have DHCP set up on my router... but generally they have the same address... Quote What kind of cans are you using? I have two different kinds one was a can of kidney beans the other a can of great northern... QuoteIs the string tight?Except for when the laptop is wireless... I try to keep the thing taught...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #12 August 22, 2006 QuoteI am constantly having to troubleshoot, adjust, settings on my computer in order to get windows file sharing to work between my two computers... and it really gets on my fucking nerves... That's all... I'm annoyed... You say all this like it is a bad thing! As long as Microsoft keeps over complicating things, people like me will have jobs! Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #13 August 22, 2006 QuoteYou say all this like it is a bad thing! As long as Microsoft keeps over complicating things, people like me will have jobs! hrm... I'm glad you have a job... but... I'm not going to hire you to come into my house and "fix" my home network... nor will the majority of private citizens... I think what I'm interested in can/should be simple enough to setup... that's not to say that other networks wouldn't be more complicated and need experts like yourself to setup/troubleshoot. Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #14 August 22, 2006 If they have the SAME ip then you have an issue on the network in the router not giving them differnt IP's.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #15 August 22, 2006 QuoteIf they have the SAME ip then you have an issue on the network in the router not giving them differnt IP's.no... they each have a different ip addy on my local subnet... its just that generally they router assigns the laptop the same ip addy every time. and the desktop is assigned a differerent IP addy from the laptop... e.g. the laptop might get x.x.x.100 and the desktop might get x.x.x.101 and even though its "dynamic" if I reboot the laptop it will reconnect to the router and be assigned the same IP... just to clear up things: my network is relatively simple... I have two computers connected to a router (each computer has a software firewall running) the router assigns an IP to each computer and acts as a gateway to the WAN (its connected to a Cable modem) its not an overtly complex design... I'm sure the problem is a software problem... not a hardware problem...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #16 August 22, 2006 QuoteI have a Dlink Router one of the computers is on the LAN the other is connected wirelessly... but I had the same problems (when they were both on the LAN) at least until I re-disabled the default windows firewall and rebooted both systems. (as it happens they were both connected to the LAN at that time...) That was probably because of the firewall. If a reboot is fixing it now - are you sure you aren't dropping the wireless connection? When windows networking doesn't work, can you still surf the web?it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #17 August 22, 2006 QuoteThat was probably because of the firewall. If a reboot is fixing it now - are you sure you aren't dropping the wireless connection? When windows networking doesn't work, can you still surf the web?I could still surf on both computers. originally "Windows" had re-enabled its built iin firewall on the laptop... (but it did still have the exceptions enabled) then after rebooting the laptop (once the built in firewall was disabled) it still didn't register a change. it also would try to tell me that I needed to contact the "administrator" (which is me...) in order to enable filesharing... I'm sure its just a stupid windows bug... something that requires windows to be rebooted periodically in order to maintain its sanity.... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 886 #18 August 22, 2006 replace dlink with linksys...dlink brands are very unreliable! in fact one of my clients has about 3000 vpn users and the first thing we did when we put in the new vpn concentrator was to drop support of dlink products. you may try upgrading the firmware on said unit though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #19 August 22, 2006 Quotereplace dlink with linksys...dlink brands are very unreliable!um... my parents have a linksys and they have always had problem with file sharing... I'm fairly confident that its a windows registry issue... and the firmware on my router is the most current... so that's not it... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 886 #20 August 22, 2006 I would still disagree...I've support a few machines of all flavors and I've not had issues with file sharing although I disagree with file sharing in that I'm a paranoid security freak when it comes to data. this topic really highlights Oren's statement though...thank you microsnot! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakeItHappen 15 #21 August 22, 2006 QuoteCall me next time and I can have it fixed for you. If you need networking gear let me know and I'll bring parts to the DZ and you can take all you want from the box. Do you have any extra PCI ethernet cards? I need two. I just bought the guts of an older Pentium for twenty bucks. I'll be sticking that into the box that holds the antique 386. My other old pentium needs a network card. Right now it has a cable connection. That is really slow, but it does work. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #22 August 22, 2006 it's not the router. It's certainly the convoluted MS product that behaves differently with each edition. I have a win2000, an XP home, and an XP Pro box, and then a small army of samba appliances. Only the XP Pro fails to play nice. Security thru obscurity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameramonkey 0 #23 August 22, 2006 I agree. I do this for a living, and have for the past 12 years. I have one client that would LIKE to share between his two XP PCs, but cant for some unexplained reason. They ping ok, they resolve via netbios/DNS ok, bindings look good, no firewalling, etc. but they just wont talk to each other and it makes absolutely NO sense. All tests indicate that they should work, but wont. No unexplained system errors in the logs or anything. I even tried to cheat and throw on IPX and/or netbeui (both generally will work when IP fails). luckilly he is very understanding so we gave up after troubleshooting for 3 hours. oh, and I have seen this at least 3 other times, so this isnt unique.Two wrongs don't make a right, however three lefts DO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #24 August 22, 2006 Jan, check your email. Scott.. are they both patched to the same security patch level?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #25 August 22, 2006 QuoteScott.. are they both patched to the same security patch level?They should be... they are both set to download updates on their own and both have XP Pro w/SP2 in fact XP was installed onto both of them at about the same time. In fact... examining the recent security updates... they are at the same level... some of the dates of update downloads vary by a day or two but looking at the last 10 or so Security updates on each system... that doesn't appear to be the issue.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
