Excerpt from The Grizzly Man

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grizzly man clip about 10 minutes long.

That Treadwell boy just ain't right in the head!

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[freeflir29 0]

I think he had it ALMOST right when he said "I'm like a fucking nut!" I just would have omitted the word "like." I hope a bear eats his dumb ass.

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hope a bear eats his dumb ass.

Uhhhh...

"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

[freeflir29 0]

I was thinking they had but couldn't remember. Awesome.

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I think he had it ALMOST right when he said "I'm like a fucking nut!" I just would have omitted the word "like." I hope a bear eats his dumb ass.

He wanted to be "ONE" with the bears, and now he is, about 10lbs of fat on a grizzly's ass.

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I think he had it ALMOST right when he said "I'm like a fucking nut!" I just would have omitted the word "like." I hope a bear eats his dumb ass.

Why the Ill will, he was harmelss, and pretty much kept to himslef in the woods.
So he was a bit peculliar, big deal, You do wierder things in my book than him wanting to protect bears

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I think he had it ALMOST right when he said "I'm like a fucking nut!" I just would have omitted the word "like." I hope a bear eats his dumb ass.

Why the Ill will, he was harmelss, and pretty much kept to himslef in the woods.
So he was a bit peculliar, big deal, You do wierder things in my book than him wanting to protect bears

I'm not sure what he did was so harmless: acclimating Grizzly bears to human contact.

ultimately this could cause incidents leading to Grizzlies getting shot.

As a matter of fact that's what happened to at least two grizzlies after Treadwell & his girlfriend got eaten & the rangers came to collect the remains.

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[replyultimately this could cause incidents leading to Grizzlies getting shot.

As a matter of fact that's what happened to at least two grizzlies after Treadwell & his girlfriend got eaten & the rangers came to collect the remains.

From myunderstanding the Grizzlies that got him were not from that area ussually. He stayed longer than he normally did and the bear that were in the area were migrating through. During all the footage I saw (granted it's a bias slant) he never actually made contact with any of the bears, he was only in proximity. I fail to see how that is any differnet to people camping in a National park

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[warpedskydiver 0]

I saw film clips of him in a river touching a bear on the back as it tried to fish for salmon, I found myself hoping the bear would eat that fool on the spot.

Here is a news flash, even your poodle will eat you if you lay still enough and he is starving, well you have to smell bad too it is a french dog afterall!


Wild animals eat things that don't want to be eaten, do you wanna be on that menu?

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I saw film clips of him in a river touching a bear on the back as it tried to fish for salmon, I found myself hoping the bear would eat that fool on the spot.

See this attutude I dont get, why, what's different about that, than any of the other wildlife people out there, Jane Goodall, Diane Fossey, Steve Irwin, Bob Ballard, David Attenbourough.
The only difference i see is the way the media has covered him

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I think it's a little different, based on the character of the animals involved. Goodall & Fossey dealt with gorillas & chimps, who usually avoid humans pretty well. Irwin dealt with reptiles, which lack the mental capacity to really be "trained" to go up to humans.

Grizzly bears are one of the few animals who are a) intelligent enough to learn & get acclimated to new things and b) can and do attack and kill (and sometimes eat) human beings unprovoked.

The grizzly bear is the second most dangerous land predator in North America.

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The grizzly bear is the second most dangerous land predator in North America.

you mean after humans, and I disagree with your rationale the only difference i see is the way he is perceived

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well, some of those perceptions are absolutely correct.

edited to add: wait, by "he" did you mean the grizzly bear, or Treadwell?

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well, some of those perceptions are absolutely correct.

edited to add: wait, by "he" did you mean the grizzly bear, or Treadwell?

I'm done here

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actually that was a serious question.

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See this attutude I dont get, why, what's different about that, than any of the other wildlife people out there, Jane Goodall, Diane Fossey, Steve Irwin, Bob Ballard, David Attenbourough.
The only difference i see is the way the media has covered him

From what I understand, all those people you listed had a formal education in the field they were trying to educate the public on.

From what I know and from the searches I've done on the Grizzly Man, he had no formal education. Many experts in the wildlife field felt that the way Timothy Treadwell handled his encounters with the bears was causing the bears more harm then good.

I don't know much about Grizzly Bears, and since I don't, I tend to believe the experts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Treadwell

IMO, he was a want-to-be actor, and this was his way to get attention. Too bad he sucked his g/f into his dream world.

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That is an excellent point. I don't doubt his dedication, or that his interest was genuine, but unlike the other wildlife advovates mentioned earlier, Treadwell was not a scientist.

Not only did he not have a formal education, he also did not belong to any scientific organization, nor did he do any research that provided any sort of useful data to the scientific or the wildlife communities.

He was an interesting character, and he loved living with bears. Great. It made for a great documentary. But that's all he did, and THAT is the difference between him and the others mentioned earlier.

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That is an excellent point. I don't doubt his dedication, or that his interest was genuine, but unlike the other wildlife advovates mentioned earlier, Treadwell was not a scientist.

Not only did he not have a formal education, he also did not belong to any scientific organization, nor did he do any research that provided any sort of useful data to the scientific or the wildlife communities.

He was an interesting character, and he loved living with bears. Great. It made for a great documentary. But that's all he did, and THAT is the difference between him and the others mentioned earlier.

Why?

I'm not refering to the educational validity of him, I'm stating that by many he is viewed as a nutter, and peole make comments like they are glad he was killed, and the bear should have got him earlier.
I find those views far more concerning then the guy living in the bush with bears.

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I can't vouch for the people that are glad he died, because I don't share that sentiment. But you made a statement that you don't see how he's any different than a number of notable wildlife advocates. I was just explaining how he is different.

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what's different about that, than any of the other wildlife people out there, Jane Goodall, Diane Fossey, Steve Irwin, Bob Ballard, David Attenbourough.
The only difference i see is the way the media has covered him

As has been mentioned..........he was an uneducated moron. The difference is he was EXPLOITING bears for his own benefit. He had ZERO to do with conservation.

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I was just explaining how he is different.

How you see he is different, as for David Attenburough, his background is actually as the Head of BBC2, and he chose to to his wildlife documentary work instead. If this guy had put together a professional presentation of his time with the bears, I'm reasonbly certtain publidc opinion would be different.
You do not need a Biology degree to have an appreciation for wild animals.


IMHO More people should take a personal interest in our Natural Hertiage and Wildlife

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what's different about that, than any of the other wildlife people out there, Jane Goodall, Diane Fossey, Steve Irwin, Bob Ballard, David Attenbourough.
The only difference i see is the way the media has covered him

As has been mentioned..........he was an uneducated moron. The difference is he was EXPLOITING bears for his own benefit. He had ZERO to do with conservation.

OK, obviously educated non moron Clay, I must have missed the bits where he EXPLOITED and benefited from his time with the bears, please educate me with your superior knowledge

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I'm not refering to the educational validity of him, I'm stating that by many he is viewed as a nutter, and peole make comments like they are glad he was killed, and the bear should have got him earlier.
I find those views far more concerning then the guy living in the bush with bears.

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IMHO More people should take a personal interest in our Natural Hertiage and Wildlife

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Don't concern yourself

you will waste more time trying to figure out me, and others like me, than you have years left on this earth.

Dont worry I will waste no time with you other than this post. I said the comments were concerning, you however dont concern me in the slightest, and i would not bother wasting my time trying to figure the like of you. I have better thing to occupy my time, like popping zits

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