millertime24 8 #26 June 22, 2009 Im curioius if it makes any difference. What I DO know is that I use to psyco pack all the time......until that 1200' deployment sequence. I was kind of almost afraid during that one. Edit: Would there be any way of getting a vid of someone doing this (only the part from squishing the air out to getting the bag closed)?Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parafoil27 0 #27 June 22, 2009 I really don't have a way at the moment but all you do is sit at the top away from the lines and roll it up like a sleeping bag. Then pull your bag over it and stow lines . Just make sure you don't push the slider down when you roll it and be sure to check your PC. Granted i don't have 1000s of jumps on this method all i can say is i havn't had any problems in my limited jumps with it. EARTH! Short bus of the universe, since the year T+10.3 billion! REV. DUDEMIESTER D.S.#120 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlucus 0 #28 June 23, 2009 Sometimes after making one S fold at the slider end, I roll the top like #1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #29 June 23, 2009 Quote...how can I be sure...I am not pulling a line across with it and creating the possibility of a line-over? You can take care, don't rush and pay attention to the packjob. Just like the PRO pack, the parachute is flaked, the lines and stabilizers centered. When you turn the parachute and put it down, do so with intent. Don't just throw it out there. Hold the lines/slider in your right hand and place your left under the parachute and place it down. This prevents the previous work from becoming disrupted. Dress the nose and slider and then slide the tail when closing, don't lift or fling, which could pull a line out. Lineovers are almost a completely avoidable malfunction. No matter how you're packing, the most important aspect of having a good opening/parachute is keeping the lines clear and tight during the entire packing process. That's the basis of the trash pack, btw. N"Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #30 June 23, 2009 "Someone had to be different at some point to invent what we now call the "Pro pack". Prior to that, the idea of packing while standing up was crazy. " ...................................................................... "Trash packing" was invented by a hung-over, long-haired, baggy-panted, dope-smoking hippy in Florida circa 1980. He was rushing to catch a load. He just set the brakes and chased the slider up the lines, gave it a shake and figure-eighted the lines in to the pack tray ... stuffed a bite of bridle through his bungee cord and ran to the plane with his pilot chute in hand. If you want to find the easiest way to do a job, assign it to the laziest man in the shop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #31 June 23, 2009 QuoteIf you want to find the easiest way to do a job, assign it to the laziest man in the shop. Yeah, but then there is the question of whether "easiest" is also "best". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glgflyer 0 #32 June 23, 2009 Hi NovaTT, Thanks for the info. I have one other question. When you are finished flaking the canopy and are ready to pull the center of the tail up to the slider, do you fold the stabilizers back behind the steering lines just prior to pulling the tail up? I saw one guy at the DZ doing this and he said it just makes it a little harder for a line to migrate around in front of the nose by doing this. What is your opinion of this and do you think it is a step that is necessary? You sound very proficient to me and I am one who really does listen and learn from those who know more than I, which is most people. Thanks for your input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #33 June 23, 2009 QuoteSometimes after making one S fold at the slider end, I roll the top like #1 Same here - it works fine for me, does that and means that the canopy is smaller (less air) and goes into the bag dead easily. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #34 June 24, 2009 Someone showed it to me, once. Since I subsequently did a hop and pop with it and since I jump a Storm, which is known for slow openings. I experienced the sloooooooweeeest opening I ever had, to the point of me seriously considering to reach for my cutaway."That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #35 June 24, 2009 After flaking the parachute, center the lines and stabilizers. That means you fold the stabilizers over the centered lines; left, right, left, right. Folding in the stabilizers helps keep the packjob evenly distributed and the steering lines in. When you're done, you will have a neatly prepared parachute. (If you're like some I know, you will at this point get the iron out and make those creases POP! ) Pull the center of the tail up, turn the parachute and place it on the ground. Now you can dress the nose and slider, then slide the tail sides across and proceed with the purge/fold for each side. Give the attachment point a good linear tug out to the side - don't lift it, just pull it out so you have 6-8" of fabric sticking out to the side. Roll and bag the parachute. Nova "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glgflyer 0 #36 June 24, 2009 NovaTT, Thanks kindly. You have been very helpful and I appreciate it. I have a 10" bridle extension. I'm assuming that pulling the fabric to the side is not necessary with the extension, right? Thanks again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #37 June 24, 2009 QuoteI have a 10" bridle extension. Yep - pull the extension out to the side and roll away. Have fun! Nova"Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glgflyer 0 #38 June 24, 2009 Again, thanks very kindly for your help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites