LisaM 0 #26 September 15, 2006 I'm with you on this one. Christmas is too materialized and is about gimmee gimmee gimmee. And all the seeing family.... sheesh! ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivermom 0 #27 September 15, 2006 This is not Speaker's Corner is it? Boy did I do a double take.Mrs. WaltAppel All things work together for good to them that love God...Romans 8:28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallinWoman 1 #28 September 15, 2006 I can only disagree with someone in Speaker's Corner? Then just about everything in Bonfire should be in Speaker's Corner....people disagree. Did not realize that we all have to get along here..... ~Anne I'm a Doll!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #29 September 15, 2006 QuoteWTF is that supossed to mean, it a very valid point, dont bitch about whayt you choose to do I believe it's supposed to mean, oh, here come the self righteous comments. And I believe everyone here has had their moments of bitching, so what do you care? In my case, I choose to go along to the family gatherings and play nicely, because I'm an adult, and there's no point in hurting my husband's feelings. But if I want to gripe about the antiquity of the customs, why shouldn't I? Oh boy, did I leave the door wide open for the comments of the morally superior......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #30 September 15, 2006 QuoteI can only disagree with someone in Speaker's Corner? Then just about everything in Bonfire should be in Speaker's Corner....people disagree. Did not realize that we all have to get along here..... Come play with me I disagree with everyone about everything Everyone else is stupidYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #31 September 15, 2006 Quote from Rich Mullins: "God will put irritating people in your path, especially if you're prone to being irritated." God can teach us all sorts of things through people who irritate us to death, micro. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #32 September 15, 2006 Quote*** And I believe everyone here has had their moments of bitching, so what do you care? I dont care, infact i just BARELY care enough to respondYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #33 September 15, 2006 QuoteCome play with me I disagree with everyone about everything Everyone else is stupid I disagree with that. YOU are stupid. Oops, can't say that. It's a PA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #34 September 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteCome play with me I disagree with everyone about everything Everyone else is stupid I disagree with that. YOU are stupid. Oops, can't say that. It's a PA. greenies, GREENIES She is being mean to me Bite my VONVONYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrublink 0 #35 September 15, 2006 Walt, I can relate to the hating of holidays. I haven't celebrated the holidays (thanksgiving-christmas period) since I was about 12 with a couple of exceptions. A couple of times I thought I would fake it for the sake of "wedded" bliss etc. That usually ends with me telling people to go fuck themselves straight out and no mincing of words. I don't wish to deal with these people the rest of the year and now I am supposed to pretend I like them? I have found that in the last 10-15 years the best thing was to tell people that "I have other plans" or that "I have to work". Yep, I lie to them. Keeps me sane and probably keeps the bastards safe as well. I think its time for you to just say no. Don't cave in, don't go anywhere, don't invite anyone to your place. Just say no. My blood pressure no remains at a comfortable level throughout the year and yours can too. Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #36 September 15, 2006 STALK STALK ..... Well Im on the "hate the holidays side" but I dont give a shit what others say, Ill complain until the last gumdrop gets lodged in someones throat...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #37 September 15, 2006 i dont care either way about the holidays, it means i'm not at work so it cant be all badYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #38 September 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteCome play with me I disagree with everyone about everything Everyone else is stupid I disagree with that. YOU are stupid. Oops, can't say that. It's a PA. greenies, GREENIES She is being mean to me Bite my VONVON Whiner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #39 September 15, 2006 Quote i dont care either way about the holidays, it means i'm not at work so it cant be all bad Told ya Id be back to stalking Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivermom 0 #40 September 15, 2006 I don't believe anyone said anything about not being able to disagree. I just find it funny how serious some people take a thread where someone else is just "venting".Mrs. WaltAppel All things work together for good to them that love God...Romans 8:28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #41 September 15, 2006 QuoteI don't believe anyone said anything about not being able to disagree. I just find it funny how serious some people take a thread where someone else is just "venting". The Bonfire is some serious stuff. I use it everyday to help make my life changing decisions. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #42 September 15, 2006 I think that's a great idea!! Here's a {{{{hug}}}} for you Muenkel. Let me know when you need me to tell you what to do, okay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #43 September 15, 2006 Quote don't wish to deal with these people the rest of the year and now I am supposed to pretend I like them? Ed Yep, the holidays are all about expectations; they are about being fake and I resent being pressured to be someone or something I am not. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #44 September 15, 2006 QuoteQuote don't wish to deal with these people the rest of the year and now I am supposed to pretend I like them? Ed Yep, the holidays are all about expectations; they are about being fake and I resent being pressured to be someone or something I am not. Waltthen be a man & define the holidays as YOU wish to celebrate them. Long ago my family chose to abandon the whole card-mailing, gift-buying bullshit. It detracts from the REAL meaning of Christmas. Instead of fussing about buying THE PERFECT GIFT for adults who don't need it, we take the money we would have spent on mall-detritus, and give it to charities that help the poor both in our own communities and around the world. Freed from that BS, we can then just focus on having a good time visiting one another. That's a much better way to spend the holidays! Fuck the gift-buying crap, except for maybe the children in the family. Instead focus on being together with your family! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #45 September 15, 2006 Quotethen be a man & define the holidays as YOU wish to celebrate them. Don't you really mean, "Grow some ovaries!" ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #46 September 15, 2006 they are about being fake and I resent being pressured to be someone or something I am not. *** Suck it up cupcake...YOU'RE the one that applied for the Macy's Santa job! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleskycrab 0 #47 September 15, 2006 I have hated christmas since I was a small child....... strange, I know. Christmas is just too damn commercialized. I couldn't give a rats ass if you want EVERYTHING in the Sears catalogue, be thankful for what you get and the people that you get to spend time with. You would think that that would have changed when I had children, but no, I just hate the holiday even more now because I HAVE to PRETEND to like the "what did ya get me" bullshit! I'm lucky though, my family is the funniest bunch of crazies (and they know I don't like holidays) and we usually spend time laughing like a bunch of hyenias on crack. There's also been a stuffing fight too. I'll avoid telling you what we did with the Turkey, but I will say that my Aunts neighbors cringe when we all arrive on Christmas day and that if you use ENOUGH fireworks that bird will fly to China! I can say that I do like Thanksgiving, just because I love food! My idea of a great holiday is spending it in comfortable clothes, with entertaining people (no I don't mean strippers, but what a change THAT would be), yummy grub and some funny shenanigans. Oh, wait, that's Saturday night at the DZ.............. sweet! I get my perfect holiday every weekend...............Next time a sunrise steals your breath or a meadow of flowers leaves you speechless, remain that way. Say nothing and listen as heaven whispers, "Do you like it? I did it just for you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrublink 0 #48 September 15, 2006 I think you took part of my reply out of context. I am a man and that is why I choose not to celebrate any holiday whatsoever, especially with my "family". That was the point I was trying to make to Walt. Just say no. Fuck the family and anybody else that thinks you should pretend to like this shit. Or you should just do it for the sake of the "others". I believe that any gathering that someone is pressured into attending (whether its internal pressure or external) is not worth going to. Fuck the holidays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #49 September 15, 2006 Quotethe holidays are all about expectations And thats why the highest rate of suicide comes at the time of holidays.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #50 September 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteCome play with me I disagree with everyone about everything Everyone else is stupid I disagree with that. YOU are stupid. Oops, can't say that. It's a PA. greenies, GREENIES She is being mean to me Bite my VONVON Bite my VONVON... I like it! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites