NWFlyer 2 #26 September 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteCan someone get him the member guide, official certificate of membership, and souvenir patch? Thanks. I thought you ran out of patches on ThunderCat's multiple personalities? That's true, it did deplete the supply. I think briguy probably has a bunch, though."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #27 September 15, 2006 QuoteMy local Starschmuck baristas are finding a cure for cancer and you are disturbing their incredibly important fact-finding mission whenever you ask them to do stuff. Like, pour a cup of fucking coffee. I love to hate Starbucks. Interesting twist on the "Starbucks is driving out local shops" debate... Quote Although more than 100 of the ubiquitous green awnings dot the big coffee corporation's hometown alone, local favorites such as Zoka Coffee, Diva Espresso and Caffe Ladro are proving it's possible to survive and even thrive in the shadow of their much larger corporate competitor. As other towns worry that Starbucks Corp. will run their local favorites out of business and rob their streets of quirky charm, the owners of several of Seattle's most beloved independent coffeehouses say they have found success by going the opposite route of their big competitor -- making a selling point of being small. "We try to stay a little more neighborhood. We try not to be too corporate," said Steve Barker, co-owner of Diva Espresso. "We don't upsell and we don't -- we're not mega- merchandise stores. We just try to sell coffee and pastry." But while Barker and others may toss small barbs at their bigger competitor, they also are the first to note that Starbucks pioneered the idea of paying up to $5 for a cup of joe, paving the way for them to follow. "Starbucks is the best thing that ever happened to coffee," Barker said. "Without Starbucks, I don't think any of us would've survived.""There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #28 September 15, 2006 Interesting. A lot of what was noted by some of the smaller coffee shop owners is true still at Starbucks (such as the doggie treats and knowing, not only the customers' drinks, but their quirks ((extra hot, extra foam, etc))). Of course, I enjoy the smaller ones too. But outside of places known for their coffee expertise such as Seattle, a good little coffee shop can be hard to come by.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #29 September 15, 2006 The very last sentence in the article is the one I keyed in on. The whole time reading the baristas' comments, I thought, "Why does it make ANY difference to you, you disaffected liberal arts grad still working on your novel/manuscript? It's not like you'd be getting the difference. Psh!" UNLESS, of course you stopped bitching, told your customers the secret with a wink, and watched the tips roll in... you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #30 September 15, 2006 Your thoughts touched on thoughts of my own that I didn't say b/c they certainly can come off harsh w/out hearing the jolly-sarcastic tone in which I think them. But what the hell... Sometimes baristas or sales associates or whomever that work at anything considered upscale act like royal snobs. And I think to myself, "You work here. I shop here. There's a big annual chunk of change difference, hunnay." It's not that I feel that way in general...but when you walk into a store in jeans and a T and are snubbed like Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman, you can't help but have such thoughts...Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #31 September 15, 2006 I don't even know where to start with that one... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #32 September 15, 2006 QuoteI don't even know where to start with that one... You could ask her about how the staff at Whole Foods feels about her situational veganism."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayberry 0 #33 September 15, 2006 Foamy knows all!! Don Here's to friends! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #34 September 15, 2006 QuoteFoamy knows all!! Foamy rocks!"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #35 September 15, 2006 I actually asked myself "what the hell is a fucking barista?" when I first read the article, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #36 September 15, 2006 QuoteYou could ask her about how the staff at Whole Foods feels about her situational veganism. Oh, snap! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #37 September 15, 2006 Oh well....turn my back for a second and poke, poke, poke. I'm a better vegan than you are. And that's good enough for me.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #38 September 15, 2006 Um, did you really say, "Oh, snap"? Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #39 September 15, 2006 QuoteOh well....turn my back for a second and poke, poke, poke. I'm a better vegan than you are. And that's good enough for me. I will freely admit that I am absolutely AWFUL at being a vegan. I just keep engaging in carnivorous behaviors. It's like I'm not even TRYING!"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #40 September 15, 2006 QuoteI don't even know where to start with that one... Thoughts, please?Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #41 September 15, 2006 QuoteI just keep engaging in carnivorous behaviors. He. Hee. He. Hee. Lindercles, she said carnivorous.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #42 September 15, 2006 I make a "poor-man's mocha" sometimes. Get a pouch of hot chocolate (you know, the powder), put in a cup, fill with coffee, stir and enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #43 September 15, 2006 QuoteI make a "poor-man's mocha" sometimes. Get a pouch of hot chocolate (you know, the powder), put in a cup, fill with coffee, stir and enjoy. Thats upclass man! Take a scoop of Quick powder, a scoop of Nescafe, and hot water... Thats getto! lolRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Elisha 1 #44 September 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteOh well....turn my back for a second and poke, poke, poke. I'm a better vegan than you are. And that's good enough for me. I will freely admit that I am absolutely AWFUL at being a vegan. I just keep engaging in carnivorous behaviors. It's like I'm not even TRYING! My foster mom (have a somewhat complicated family situation - 3 moms and 2 dads - not with each other of course. One pair in NorCal, the other in SoCal and the 3rd mom neat the SoCal pair) will eat some occasional dairy (butter, eggs or milk/cream cooked into things) and honey (vegans don't want to be mean to the bees). But she'll cook meat for dad and others. She doesn't do any animals at all - no seafood, poultry, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #45 September 16, 2006 QuoteFoamy knows all!! HAHAHA that was great, it also explained where Yam got his avatar When i was in the states in 99 in Seatle, i near got in an argument with a Starbucks sales clerk (I refuse to call them Baristas), I said I'll have (i pointed to the size cup) long black. the clown started asking questions and after each question I kept saying No thanks ot just a long black, in the end I said man I just want a friggin black coffee for christ sake, I've never been back to starbucksYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #46 September 16, 2006 QuoteMy foster mom (have a somewhat complicated family situation - 3 moms and 2 dads - not with each other of course. One pair in NorCal, the other in SoCal and the 3rd mom neat the SoCal pair) will eat some occasional dairy (butter, eggs or milk/cream cooked into things) and honey (vegans don't want to be mean to the bees). But she'll cook meat for dad and others. She doesn't do any animals at all - no seafood, poultry, etc I'm the same way in that I don't force my personal eating choices unto others. But, just by living together for 5 years and him reading all the material I receive and review after me, Billy has naturally changed his own habits drastically. I'm going to start a thread soon (at the encouragement of others who want easy access to some info) that I'll update with new facts/info once in a while (both cool, fun facts and seriously, be aware facts) on animal welfare.Now back to the ghetto.... My grandma used to make "Poor Man's Apple Pie" which was toast, butter and applesauce on top. It was delicious.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites swedishcelt 0 #47 September 16, 2006 If it only happens once a day then they are lucky IMO. LOL! Think of what the Starbucks employees in a college town must go through. I remember my friends wiping OUT the condiments areas the first week back to school at every restaurant and fast food place in TOWN. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #48 September 16, 2006 WTF has it got to do the the waitresses [barista]? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #49 September 16, 2006 QuoteI remember my friends wiping OUT the condiments areas the first week back to school at every restaurant and fast food place in TOWN. Yes, the salt & pepper shakers were quite popular as well as the beer "specials" holders made for great picture frames.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ImGunnaJump 0 #50 September 17, 2006 Well, Foamy is right about the idiotic terminology for ordering coffee...but at the end of the day, I still love Starschmucks if for no other reason than their Carmel Macchiatto. Waaaaay over-priced, but I love it. I'd had no idea this ghetto latte thing was happening. I've never noticed anyone doing any serious bartending of their own at the condiment bar - I'm sure it happens, I've just never seen it. It's certainley not going to hurt Starbuck's bottom line. Besides, I think Starbucks whole schtick (Sp?)of making a big fuss over coffee contributes to bringing this out in people. Some people fuss over the temperature, some over the foam, some over the fat content... and some over the price of the coffee, so they make their ghetto. They really shouldn't be all that surprised. I think the baristas getting all worked up over it is hilarious. I'll have to start watching for the "tacky people who are gaming the system""...I've learned that while the "needs" in life are important (food, water, shelter), it's the "wants" in life (ice cream, chocolate, sex) that make it worth the effort." Kbordson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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Remster 30 #43 September 15, 2006 QuoteI make a "poor-man's mocha" sometimes. Get a pouch of hot chocolate (you know, the powder), put in a cup, fill with coffee, stir and enjoy. Thats upclass man! Take a scoop of Quick powder, a scoop of Nescafe, and hot water... Thats getto! lolRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #44 September 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteOh well....turn my back for a second and poke, poke, poke. I'm a better vegan than you are. And that's good enough for me. I will freely admit that I am absolutely AWFUL at being a vegan. I just keep engaging in carnivorous behaviors. It's like I'm not even TRYING! My foster mom (have a somewhat complicated family situation - 3 moms and 2 dads - not with each other of course. One pair in NorCal, the other in SoCal and the 3rd mom neat the SoCal pair) will eat some occasional dairy (butter, eggs or milk/cream cooked into things) and honey (vegans don't want to be mean to the bees). But she'll cook meat for dad and others. She doesn't do any animals at all - no seafood, poultry, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #45 September 16, 2006 QuoteFoamy knows all!! HAHAHA that was great, it also explained where Yam got his avatar When i was in the states in 99 in Seatle, i near got in an argument with a Starbucks sales clerk (I refuse to call them Baristas), I said I'll have (i pointed to the size cup) long black. the clown started asking questions and after each question I kept saying No thanks ot just a long black, in the end I said man I just want a friggin black coffee for christ sake, I've never been back to starbucksYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #46 September 16, 2006 QuoteMy foster mom (have a somewhat complicated family situation - 3 moms and 2 dads - not with each other of course. One pair in NorCal, the other in SoCal and the 3rd mom neat the SoCal pair) will eat some occasional dairy (butter, eggs or milk/cream cooked into things) and honey (vegans don't want to be mean to the bees). But she'll cook meat for dad and others. She doesn't do any animals at all - no seafood, poultry, etc I'm the same way in that I don't force my personal eating choices unto others. But, just by living together for 5 years and him reading all the material I receive and review after me, Billy has naturally changed his own habits drastically. I'm going to start a thread soon (at the encouragement of others who want easy access to some info) that I'll update with new facts/info once in a while (both cool, fun facts and seriously, be aware facts) on animal welfare.Now back to the ghetto.... My grandma used to make "Poor Man's Apple Pie" which was toast, butter and applesauce on top. It was delicious.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishcelt 0 #47 September 16, 2006 If it only happens once a day then they are lucky IMO. LOL! Think of what the Starbucks employees in a college town must go through. I remember my friends wiping OUT the condiments areas the first week back to school at every restaurant and fast food place in TOWN. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #48 September 16, 2006 WTF has it got to do the the waitresses [barista]? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #49 September 16, 2006 QuoteI remember my friends wiping OUT the condiments areas the first week back to school at every restaurant and fast food place in TOWN. Yes, the salt & pepper shakers were quite popular as well as the beer "specials" holders made for great picture frames.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImGunnaJump 0 #50 September 17, 2006 Well, Foamy is right about the idiotic terminology for ordering coffee...but at the end of the day, I still love Starschmucks if for no other reason than their Carmel Macchiatto. Waaaaay over-priced, but I love it. I'd had no idea this ghetto latte thing was happening. I've never noticed anyone doing any serious bartending of their own at the condiment bar - I'm sure it happens, I've just never seen it. It's certainley not going to hurt Starbuck's bottom line. Besides, I think Starbucks whole schtick (Sp?)of making a big fuss over coffee contributes to bringing this out in people. Some people fuss over the temperature, some over the foam, some over the fat content... and some over the price of the coffee, so they make their ghetto. They really shouldn't be all that surprised. I think the baristas getting all worked up over it is hilarious. I'll have to start watching for the "tacky people who are gaming the system""...I've learned that while the "needs" in life are important (food, water, shelter), it's the "wants" in life (ice cream, chocolate, sex) that make it worth the effort." Kbordson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
