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BTW, what do your friends say when the male dog starts making in the house?

my friends are currently in europe and I'm dogsitting... which is why he's over right now... my friends don't approve of him "marking" places in my house... but their normal solution seems to be to let him mark the back yard before letting him in the house (which only sort of works... :S)

I understand that he may still try to escape and he may very well still attempt to mark his percieved territory... but at least if he does escape he won't be able to knock up other dogs... [:/]
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I don't know what word would be better suited to describe it, but I don't think it's "irresponsible".



I think it only becomes irresponsible when the pet is allowed to mate when it's not planned.

Working at an animal clinic I see a number of unwanted animals. Those could have been prevented if the animals had been spade or neutered.
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I don't know what word would be better suited to describe it, but I don't think it's "irresponsible".



ok to clarify I'm not saying that owning a dog that is not spade or nutered is irresponsilbe... I'm saying owning a dog that is noticably uncontrolable is irresponsible... Kuma has escaped from their yard on more then one occasion (as well as other's yards...) and doesn't respond to commands (unless he feels like it.) I would feel differently if this dog was a labrador that was very well trained and was in fact kept from other dogs in heat and even then the drive of a male dog that picks up the scent of a female in heat is very strong and would require constant attention to control.
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I don't know what word would be better suited to describe it, but I don't think it's "irresponsible".



I think it only becomes irresponsible when the pet is allowed to mate when it's not planned.

Working at an animal clinic I see a number of unwanted animals. Those could have been prevented if the animals had been spade or neutered.



Yeah, that's what I said, I think it's only irresponsible if the dog is being allowed to go hump anything it sees.

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... Kuma has escaped from their yard on more then one occasion (as well as other's yards...) and doesn't respond to commands (unless he feels like it.)



So this other dog's name is Kuma, and doesn't respond to commands...so you're having to constantly repeat his name, as well as call for Karma.

You're probably getting a real headache with the Kuma/Karma combo!:D

Are the dogs getting mixed up? Does poor little Karma come when you call Kuma?:P:D
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yes actually Karma does come when I call Kuma... (she's so well behaived... )



That's because you took the time to work with her. Thank you for being a good dog guardian.
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yes actually Karma does come when I call Kuma... (she's so well behaived... )

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That's because you took the time to work with her. Thank you for being a good dog guardian despite the fact that you are confusing the shit out of her with that whole Kuma/Karma thing.



Fixed that one for you Mar.:)
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I guess I wasn't clear.

I was trying to say good for him cause he has trained his dog to come when he calls her.

But you're right, the poor dog is confussed. But then again, all my dogs come when I call just one. I think they think they are going to miss out on some thing.
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ok... I'm not really that pissed... :D but I really do think (and I tell my friends this regularly) that it is quite irresponsible of them to have him without fixing him.



Yes, it is.

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they always claim that "we might want to breed him someday"



And that is the worst reason there is. If they don't already know whether they intend/hope to breed him someday, they most certainly won't be doing it to improve the breed. There is no other good reason to breed a dog when there are so many sweet mutts being euthanized for lack of a good home...due to irresponsible owners who leave their pets unaltered.

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But you're right, the poor dog is confussed. But then again, all my dogs come when I call just one. I think they think they are going to miss out on some thing.

yeah... in fact right now kuma is standing outside... I have to go to work later... and alas he just stands there stairing at me... daring me to come outside and "chase him" since he won't come when I call... >:([:/]
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daring me to come outside and "chase him" since he won't come when I call... >:([:/]



Run away from him instead of after him while saying come. He will stil think it's a game you just changed the came to he comes after you rather than you going after him. It's one of the ways to teach come in obediance class.
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daring me to come outside and "chase him" since he won't come when I call... >:([:/]



Run away from him instead of after him while saying come. He will stil think it's a game you just changed the came to he comes after you rather than you going after him. It's one of the ways to teach come in obediance class.



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