Cat flinging..........Cool or not?

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When my dad got tired of his cat, he just had his wife throw it up in the air, and he shot it with his .38

linz

Are you serious? If so, why in God's name would you be telling people about that? I'd be trying to figure out a way to disown my father...

Or getting him arrested.

You're not serious, right?

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I just have a VERY LOW Tolerance for people who abuse animals... I just feel they need similar treatment to what they are handing out to small helpless animals.

[Lindsey 0]

Are you serious? If so, why in God's name would you be telling people about that?

Yeah. I'm serious. The thread's about "cat flinging" and it reminded me.

It happened during my dad's drunk years. There were a LOT of things that happened that you might not think I should talk about. This was one of them. But he's been sober for nearly 15 years....and he behaves better now. :)

I'd be trying to figure out a way to disown my father...

No. My dad's done a lot of crazy things in his day, and we've all gained a lot from the experience....though days were difficult at times. I'm really, really, really proud of my dad. He rocks. :)

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I have been places in the world where cat is just another item for dinner.......are they abusing them ?

I don't know, are they? Eating an animal is not a form of abuse. Abuse happens while they're still alive, not after they're dead.

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When my dad got tired of his cat, he just had his wife throw it up in the air, and he shot it with his .38

linz

Are you serious? If so, why in God's name would you be telling people about that? I'd be trying to figure out a way to disown my father...

Or getting him arrested.

You're not serious, right?

Believe it or not, there are worse people out there.

There was a co-worker of mine. He was one of those weird southern gun-owning guys with a confederate sticker on the back window of his car, but didn't look like a redneck. Just a quiet kind of guy.

I heard from another co-worker that he told her that he had taken a litter of kittens he found in his back yard, dug a hole, and shot them all in the head and buried them.

Even said it was better than languishing in the animal shelter for a few months before getting the needle...

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I have been places in the world where cat is just another item for dinner.......are they abusing them ?

I don't know, are they? Eating an animal is not a form of abuse. Abuse happens while they're still alive, not after they're dead.

So its ok to kill one and eat it......if you kill it nicely?

I wont even try to explain the booth I once saw in the Phillipines with live puppies hanging on the hooks by their hind feet.......for dinner.

Its all perception....or how hungry one might be.

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[Lindercles 0]

The killing and eating of animals by other animals is part of the natural life cycle. Abusing other animals for your own amusement isn't. Your original comparison between eating cats and abusing cats is flawed.

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The killing and eating of animals by other animals is part of the natural life cycle. Abusing other animals for your own amusement isn't. Your original comparison between eating cats and abusing cats is flawed.

So as long as we eat 'em afterwards, we're good. I think I understand.

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The killing and eating of animals by other animals is part of the natural life cycle. Abusing other animals for your own amusement isn't. Your original comparison between eating cats and abusing cats is flawed.

I'm quite sue Peta wouldnt agree with you but thats your opinion. So be it.

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So its ok to kill one and eat it......if you kill it nicely?

I wont even try to explain the booth I once saw in the Phillipines with live puppies hanging on the hooks by their hind feet.......for dinner.

Its all perception....or how hungry one might be.

We are talking about two different things here Bozo... differing cultures view animals differently.. BUT in OUR culture its UNACCEPTABLE and this is kind if a red herring... Little scumbags who get off on abusing little animals have a VERY high probability of growing up to be offenders and or even serial murderers.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Animal-Cruelty:--The-Key-to-Serial-Minds&id=35856

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Animal Cruelty: The Key to Serial Minds


What makes a common person a Serial Killer? According to research, serial killers exhibit what is known as the 'Triad of Warning Signs in Childhood.'1

Indicators include:

* Firestarting, invariably just for the thrill of destroying things

* Cruelty to Animals: Most children can be cruel to animals, such as pulling the legs off of spiders, but future serial killers often kill larger animals, like dogs and cats, and frequently for their solitary enjoyment rather than to impress peers.

* Bedwetting beyond the age when children normally grow out of such behavior.

One of society's more notorious serial killers, Jeffrey Dahmer explained that wanted to remove 'free will' from his victims so that they would stay with him. In his past, he suffered from abandonment and was afraid of loss and any social upheaval. Another one of his extremely displaced characteristics was that he suffered from low self-esteem. His parents divorced during his teens, and when he did go to college, he performed badly. Upon examination of three psychologists, Dahmer was found to be manipulative, resistant and evasive.2 Further studies of Dahmer revealed that he could not tolerate rejection or abandonment; and that control was the number one factor for him. One clue to his unusually sick behavior was that even in his relationships, Dahmer did not gratify his sexual partners - instead, Dahmer always expected to be pleased by them.

According to Pat Brown's Book, Killing for Sport: Inside the Minds of Serial Killers '...serial killers are of average intelligence....most have low level jobs and make poor decisions. ' And, '...it is exactly these poor decisions that get them in trouble on their jobs, in their relationships, and in their crimes.'

Based on studies, serial killers usually choose victims that they can easily overpower, such as persons having short height and low weight. Additionally, 'serial killing is not about sex at all, but about power and control and revenge on society.' 2

Ted Bundy, who murdered at least 36 women, was known for his expressed desire to acquire things. From theft, to the importance of social standing, he pined to break free from the working class from which he was born. Additionally, he 'needed' to possess expensive items as well. Per research, Ted came from a single-parent home, was a severe sexual deviate; and women threatened him. He felt the need to not only control them, but to incapacitate them as well. As a teenager, Ted Bundy became known for his violent temper.

But what do serial killers like Dahmer, Bundy and others like them have in common?

'Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Andrew Cunanan, David 'Son of Sam' Berkowitz, and Albert 'Boston Strangler' DeSalvo were ALL cruel to animals before they started hurting people.'6 Subsequently, killer teenagers Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold (Columbine HS), and Kip Kinkel were also known for their past history of animal cruelty. In the study from of 'The Care of pets within child abusing families,' presented by DeViney & Lockwood, 88 percent of the homes were animal abuse had occurred, children were also abused.

In conclusion, I summise this important literature from the San Francisco Chronicle commentary by Margo DeMello:

"...every time we hear of a young person abusing an animal, it is explained away by family and often authorities as a 'youthful indiscrection'...What the authorities and parents of these young men fail to realize is that their behavior may signal that something is wrong with these men, which could very easily escalate into something much worse. The evidence is not just anecdotal; numerous studies, including the 1998 work of Randall Lockwood and Frank R. Ascione ("Cruelty to Animals and Interpersonal Violence," Purdue University Press), have shown that children who engage in animal cruelty are more likely to commit more violent acts as adults. There is also a strong link between abuse of animals and domestic violence, with animal abusers much more likely to batter their wives or girlfriends as well...

Youthful violence toward animals is a very serious issue, and it needs to be taken seriously by not only animal advocates like myself, but by those who are concerned about violence in our society." - Margo DeMello, Ph.D.

© 2005 Animal Cruelty: The Key to Serial Minds

[Lindsey 0]

That's kind of a stretch. Unfortunately, it's pretty common for country folks around here to kill animals. I don't know of even one serial killer who's come from here....unless it's a serial killer of cats. I know lots of people who, when confronted with a fresh litter of kittens, will put them in a burlap bag and throw them in the pond. It's bad. It's horrible. But it's accepted among a certain backwoods crowd....accepted *culturally*

I think you can probably say that most serial killers wouldn't have a problem killing cats. But most people who kill cats aren't gonna kill people.

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The killing and eating of animals by other animals is part of the natural life cycle. Abusing other animals for your own amusement isn't. Your original comparison between eating cats and abusing cats is flawed.

I'm quite sue Peta wouldnt agree with you but thats your opinion. So be it.

A. When did PETA become part of this discussion and why does it matter what they think?

B. Nothing I said is an opinion. All three sentences are factual. Please, tell me how they're not.

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So its ok to kill one and eat it......if you kill it nicely?

I wont even try to explain the booth I once saw in the Phillipines with live puppies hanging on the hooks by their hind feet.......for dinner.

Its all perception....or how hungry one might be.

We are talking about two different things here Bozo... differing cultures view animals differently.. BUT in OUR culture its UNACCEPTABLE and this is kind if a red herring...


And....I dont disagree with you Jeannie. The point I was trying to make I'm quite sure you got.

Heres another point......the original poster was just going for cause and effect.....which he accomplished quite well. I have four dogs....members of my family.....I dont like animals abusers any more than you do. I dont like trolls much better.

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Unfortunately, it's pretty common for country folks around here to kill animals. I don't know of even one serial killer who's come from here....unless it's a serial killer of cats. I know lots of people who, when confronted with a fresh litter of kittens, will put them in a burlap bag and throw them in the pond. It's bad. It's horrible. But it's accepted among a certain backwoods crowd....accepted *culturally*

I grew up with those kind of folk... and the menfolk seemed to have NO problem smacking the wife and kids around..."to keep em in line"

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Amazon.... You are 100% right....

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Bad Clay baaaad.....

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Though I personally don't think I'd find much fun in doing homemade cat-apults, I wouldn't see it as particularly cruel. I mean, it's not like you neutered the cat (or spayed the cat, if it was a female). Assuming that the cat kept coming back for more, I wouldn't think that the cat was injured. Despite my belief that it isn't cool, I do not believe you are a particularly bad person for doing it.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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That's just mean. Not "Heheheh..I'm silly evil" mean, just crappy lousy mean.

Why do people hate cats? They don't harm anyone. Their poop may stink, but so does yours. They're furry little tactile snugglers, with claws.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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You'd probably get more distance if you Bonsai Kitten'd them first....

it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality

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Unfortunately, it's pretty common for country folks around here to kill animals. I don't know of even one serial killer who's come from here....unless it's a serial killer of cats. I know lots of people who, when confronted with a fresh litter of kittens, will put them in a burlap bag and throw them in the pond. It's bad. It's horrible. But it's accepted among a certain backwoods crowd....accepted *culturally*

I grew up with those kind of folk... and the menfolk seemed to have NO problem smacking the wife and kids around..."to keep em in line"

I think you prob'ly have a point.

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The killing and eating of animals by other animals is part of the natural life cycle. Abusing other animals for your own amusement isn't. Your original comparison between eating cats and abusing cats is flawed.

I'm quite sue Peta wouldnt agree with you but thats your opinion. So be it.

A. When did PETA become part of this discussion and why does it matter what they think?

B. Nothing I said is an opinion. All three sentences are factual. Please, tell me how they're not.

All 3 sentances are not factual.

FACT = The killing and eating of animals by other animals is part of the natural life cycle.

OPINION = Abusing other animals for your own amusement isn't.

OPINION = Your original comparison between eating cats and abusing cats is flawed.

Again thats an opinion.

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You've really put the cat amongst the commers now,

Gone fishing

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OPINION = Abusing other animals for your own amusement isn't.

This is true. Ever see what a cat does to a mouse before it kills it?
And what about that video posted here a while back that showed the monkey abusing the tigers for what appeared to be shits and giggles?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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OPINION = Abusing other animals for your own amusement isn't.

This is true. Ever see what a cat does to a mouse before it kills it?
And what about that video posted here a while back that showed the monkey abusing the tigers for what appeared to be shits and giggles?

The cat has predatory instincts. The human abusing animals is just being a sadistic prick, unless he plans on consuming said feline. If he does, he should dispatch said feline with as little pain as possible.


...He just ought not to do so in my presence, as I own multiple non-lethal weapons, and have an attorney who will get me acquitted.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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That video is hilarious, but do you really think it constitutes abuse? Honestly?

And as for cats, I'm not sure anything they do can be considered part of the natural life cycle, since their entire lives are domesticated. Who knows, maybe they're just bored. Wild cats don't do the same thing.