point_code 0 #1 April 17, 2007 is it safe to dye an ugly container a different color? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #2 April 17, 2007 1st reaction is NO there have been a couple of discussions about this. Some manufacturers and riggers won't touch your rig even with a stick if you dye it.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
point_code 0 #3 April 17, 2007 thanks. I see the other threads now. I guess I should have searched before posting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #4 April 17, 2007 Quote1st reaction is NO there have been a couple of discussions about this. Some manufacturers and riggers won't touch your rig even with a stick if you dye it. Hmmmm... hadn't heard that before, but I don't doubt it. Please expand? I've known some folks who have dyed a rig. Usually its from some color, ugly or otherwise, to "all black". What ever the color of the rig, the material got that color somehow... and it probably involved dye at some point. I can see though where some would be suspicious that a re-dye job may leave some sort of residual effect that could weaken the nylon of the parachutes or, worse yet, the harness... something akin to the dreaded "acid mesh" boogy man of days gone by. I'd like to hear more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #5 April 17, 2007 Quote Hmmmm... hadn't heard that before, but I don't doubt it. Please expand? I read it here.. What is on internet is the truth What is on dz.com is double truth Apparently some manufacturers considered it as a major alteration or something similar. Evenmore when they don't know what dye was used etc etc. clicky more clickyscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 April 17, 2007 Dying of synthetic fabrics is a complex process. It is not something that can be replicated well in a non-industrial environment. Although I cannot find a reference, dying of od green military surplus rigs to black in the 50's, 60's, and 70's was considered a major alteration requiring the services of a master rigger. The issue of riggers or manufacturers not maintaining or servicing dyed rigs is one of not knowing the effect. Assuming there is no deleterious effect to a life saving device is not appropriate. If there is no proof that there is no deleterious effect we have to operate on the side of caution. Even if one dying process might be okay we often would have no idea of the process used. This is not a t-shirt. It's what's going to save your life. I and many others are not willing to compromise just because someone thinks a particular rig is ugly.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,463 #7 April 17, 2007 Hi Terry, I don't know about your part of the world back in the '60's but I do know that a lot of mil surplus rigs went through Portland Dye Works without any type of rigger involved. It was 'the thing' to do back in the early-mid '60's.Rules, what rules?????? Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkfairy 0 #8 April 17, 2007 Jump the ugly rig and be proud of it? Is it that bad? Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #9 April 17, 2007 Quote Hi Terry, I don't know about your part of the world back in the '60's but I do know that a lot of mil surplus rigs went through Portland Dye Works without any type of rigger involved. It was 'the thing' to do back in the early-mid '60's.Rules, what rules?????? Jerry In the '60's and early '70's, I dyed several harnesses and probably half a dozen cheapo's and PC's different colors. I put hundreds of jumps on them with no ill-effects. I still have a dyed PC I jump occasionally - 40 years after the dye job - it's still going strong! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gearless_chris 1 #10 April 17, 2007 Couldn't you just color it in with a Sharpie? "If it wasn't easy stupid people couldn't do it", Duane. My momma said I could be anything I wanted when I grew up, so I became an a$$hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkfairy 0 #11 April 18, 2007 Post pictures of it? Please! Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #12 April 18, 2007 do you think it would match Remster's canopy ? Come on, please revive the "Ugly Gear" thread.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
