Ketia0 0 #1 June 15, 2009 At what altitude is it to low to use hard turns, and being using slow flat turns? My instructor tells me to turn right to do the crosswind portion of the landing, and i always get scared because i dont want to turn to fast, and lose too much altitude. so, when do you start using just low flat turns?"In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hchunter614 0 #2 June 15, 2009 In our First Jump Course we use the following figures for turns below... 1500' no turns greater than 360 degrees 1000' no turns greater than 180 degrees 500' only turns 90 degrees or less 300' only turns 45 degrees or less and only for obstacle avoidance (because you should be on final at this point) As you advance those will change because you'll learn skills like braked turns (which loose less altitude). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettski74 0 #3 June 15, 2009 Quote At what altitude is it to low to use hard turns, and being using slow flat turns? My instructor tells me to turn right to do the crosswind portion of the landing, and i always get scared because i dont want to turn to fast, and lose too much altitude. so, when do you start using just low flat turns? What did your instructor say when you asked him/her this question? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ketia0 0 #4 June 15, 2009 i keep forgetting to ask my instructor at the DZ. im usually so pumped up from the dive, i cant think of good questions until i am home.. then i post them here. lol"In this game you can't predict the future. You just have to play the odds. "-JohnMitchell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrbiceps 0 #5 June 17, 2009 what i did was up high do a series of turns and look at your alti to get an idea of how much height you are loosing in each turn. On big student canopies a 360 may only loose you only 300 or so feet in height. My mate on his katana 120 can loose 1000 feet for a 360 turn, So there is no exact answer to your question. It is good to be afraid of the ground in low turns though. I have always been very careful of making any more that a slight adjustment below 300 feet after seeing the xrays from a friend of mine who stuffed up a swoop and he now has over 20 screws holding his pelvis together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #6 June 17, 2009 Quote i keep forgetting to ask my instructor at the DZ. im usually so pumped up from the dive, i cant think of good questions until i am home.. then i post them here. lol Write them down, and take them with you next time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #7 June 18, 2009 Quote It is good to be afraid of the ground in low turns though. Negative. That is just plain stupid. You have to know how and how much you can turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #8 June 24, 2009 Quote In our First Jump Course we use the following figures for turns below... 1500' no turns greater than 360 degrees 1000' no turns greater than 180 degrees 500' only turns 90 degrees or less 300' only turns 45 degrees or less and only for obstacle avoidance (because you should be on final at this point) I strongly disagree with the 1000 ft numbers. Generally, 1000 ft marks the landing pattern entry point. Doing 180 degree turns in the landing pattern is never a good idea.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #9 June 24, 2009 Quote At what altitude is it to low to use hard turns, and being using slow flat turns? My instructor tells me to turn right to do the crosswind portion of the landing, and i always get scared because i dont want to turn to fast, and lose too much altitude. so, when do you start using just low flat turns? Well, help yourself overcome that fear by testing the response of your canopy a little more each jump. Fro example: Jump 1: Turn 90 degrees onto your crosswind with a flat turn. Jump 2: Turn 90 degrees onto your crosswind with a 1/2 turn. Jump 3: Turn 90 degrees onto your crosswind with a 3/4 turn. This exercise will let you see the differences in altitude loss with a good eye ball reference (the ground) right below you. The more you practice, the more comfortable you will get at turning in the landing pattern. With experience, you'll discover that some turn types are better than others at any given altitude depending on the situation at hand. Flat turns are very usefull for obstacle avoidance.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djmarvin 2 #10 July 3, 2009 Quote i keep forgetting to ask my instructor at the DZ. im usually so pumped up from the dive, i cant think of good questions until i am home.. then i post them here. lol Write the question on the top of your next flight plan, you wont forget to ask. DJ Marvin AFF I/E, Coach/E, USPA/UPT Tandem I/E http://www.theratingscenter.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
