billvon 3,120 #1 October 11, 2006 Here's a picture of the latest bike I assembled. Components include: Crystalyte X-5304 hub motor (750 watt rated but I'm getting 1600 watts out of it) Wheel laced by EV Tech $200 Target mountain bike frame Currie controller Cruddy 48 volt lead acid battery (Hawker cells; high power but low energy) Right now I'm hitting 36mph, but I'm also seeing a 25% voltage loss in the battery, which is slowing me down. With a better battery I should be able to hit 40mph. Also attached is a picture of a lithium ion battery; should give me much more range (albeit at a slightly slower speed.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #2 October 11, 2006 If you get a road bike, put a set of lighter wheels on it and then do all that I bet you could get 50 mph if you wanted. You'd be amazed at the power loss in a set of heavy wheels. That is awesome though, just awesome.Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #3 October 11, 2006 If you put a lawn mower engine on it and use all the gas you have in the three red gas cans right in front of it you even might reach 75 mph. Or alternatively you can go to your friendly honda dealer and ask him to sell you a real motorbike. On other hand in your environmental capacity I hope your local power plant is wind/hydroelectric/nuclear cause otherwise you are creating more polution by charging the batteries than you would be riding a vespa mopedjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #4 October 11, 2006 QuoteOn other hand in your environmental capacity I hope your local power plant is wind/hydroelectric/nuclear cause otherwise you are creating more polution by charging the batteries than you would be riding a vespa moped Actually, i think he runs almost his entire house on solar already so charging that battery isn't anything. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #5 October 11, 2006 cool. now you just need to attach little bubble-gum cards to the spokes. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #6 October 11, 2006 CHEATER! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeiber 0 #7 October 11, 2006 Hmmm. I see a number of problems. 1) it needs a big spoiler on the back. Even if it isn't fast, putting the spoiler on there will make it look really cool. 2) hydraulics would really get the chicks 3) wire a neon light on the underside of the frame. Again, this'll really get the chicks! 4) mount up a side car, so you can go cruising for hotties!Shhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #8 October 11, 2006 Very impressive, Bill. At this point in my life, all I can do is type...We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 October 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteOn other hand in your environmental capacity I hope your local power plant is wind/hydroelectric/nuclear cause otherwise you are creating more polution by charging the batteries than you would be riding a vespa moped Actually, i think he runs almost his entire house on solar already so charging that battery isn't anything. I'm thinking that Jraf didn't read the last several hundred posts about what he invents to try to save energy and money.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #10 October 11, 2006 Quote1) it needs a big spoiler on the back. Even if it isn't fast, putting the spoiler on there will make it look really cool. Not fast enough? Problem solved: pt a "Type R" sticker on it, and WHAMMO! 4HP gained. And you're still a cheater Bill... Isnt work like 2 miles down the road? Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #11 October 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteOn other hand in your environmental capacity I hope your local power plant is wind/hydroelectric/nuclear cause otherwise you are creating more polution by charging the batteries than you would be riding a vespa moped Actually, i think he runs almost his entire house on solar already so charging that battery isn't anything. Naah I have not read them. If I want to save energy I bike or walk. If I want to save mone I have a friend give me a lift I'm thinking that Jraf didn't read the last several hundred posts about what he invents to try to save energy and money.jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #12 October 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteOn other hand in your environmental capacity I hope your local power plant is wind/hydroelectric/nuclear cause otherwise you are creating more polution by charging the batteries than you would be riding a vespa moped Actually, i think he runs almost his entire house on solar already so charging that battery isn't anything. Naah I have not read them. If I want to save energy I bike or walk. If I want to save mone I have a friend give me a lift I'm thinking that Jraf didn't read the last several hundred posts about what he invents to try to save energy and money.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #13 October 11, 2006 >Or alternatively you can go to your friendly honda dealer and ask him to sell you a real motorbike. And that would be fun because . . . >I hope your local power plant is wind/hydroelectric/nuclear . . . . See attached for pictures of my local powerplant. >. . . more pollution by charging the batteries than you would be riding a vespa moped. Small IC engines (like Vespas use) are the most polluting engines out there (per horsepower.) A Vespa puts out more measurable pollution than a Honda Civic if both go the same distance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #14 October 11, 2006 >And you're still a cheater Bill... Isnt work like 2 miles down the road? More like 3. But with the new battery, I should be able to make it to the nearest three microbreweries without having to change clothes when I get there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #15 October 11, 2006 QuoteHere's a picture of the latest bike I assembled. Components include: Crystalyte X-5304 hub motor (750 watt rated but I'm getting 1600 watts out of it) Wheel laced by EV Tech $200 Target mountain bike frame Currie controller Cruddy 48 volt lead acid battery (Hawker cells; high power but low energy) Right now I'm hitting 36mph, but I'm also seeing a 25% voltage loss in the battery, which is slowing me down. With a better battery I should be able to hit 40mph. Also attached is a picture of a lithium ion battery; should give me much more range (albeit at a slightly slower speed.) Very cool. Have you considered swapping the front knobby tire for a road slick?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #16 October 11, 2006 QuoteI'm thinking that Jraf didn't read the last several hundred posts about what he invents to try to save energy and money. Sounds like it. One minor correction: I seriously doubt Bill saves any money by doing this stuff. The payback from solar alone is probably 10+ years. But it's certainly more environmentally friendly, so long as you don't have to throw that battery out. 7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #17 October 11, 2006 Quotewithout having to change clothes when I get there! I'm sure the staff will miss not serving you wearing your lycra shorts and shirt....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppie01 0 #18 October 11, 2006 Quotewearing your lycra shorts and shirt.... I thought you were the one with the lycra short fetish~!? g"Let's do something romantic this Saturday... how bout we bust out the restraints?" Raddest Ho this side of Jersey #1 - MISS YOU OMG, is she okay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #19 October 11, 2006 >Have you considered swapping the front knobby tire for a road slick? Oh, definitely. This is just the 'conceptual phase' so to speak. It needs a new battery, better wiring, a decent charger, better front tire, better brake caliper, and a new bottom bracket. But for now it will do for testing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #20 October 11, 2006 Quotecool. now you just need to attach little bubble-gum cards to the spokes. Or doctor up one of these! I have one just like this! Used twice by my brother back in 1972. The bigger boys at school tried to beat him up and take it. He beat them up and then never rode the bike again (didn't want it stolen!). 'Shell'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #21 October 11, 2006 QuoteOr doctor up one of these! I have one just like this! Used twice by my brother back in 1972. The bigger boys at school tried to beat him up and take it. He beat them up and then never rode the bike again (didn't want it stolen!). 'Shell Oooo Oooo.... Choppers were Cool!!! Ya gotta love the slapstick 3 speed :) Although it was a PITA trying to find a replacement front tire and inner tubeI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #22 October 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteOr doctor up one of these! I have one just like this! Used twice by my brother back in 1972. The bigger boys at school tried to beat him up and take it. He beat them up and then never rode the bike again (didn't want it stolen!). 'Shell Oooo Oooo.... Choppers were Cool!!! Ya gotta love the slapstick 3 speed :) Although it was a PITA trying to find a replacement front tire and inner tube See, I don't have that problem. This little baby still has some of the "nubbies" on the tires! It hasn't been out on the road (except for a short jaunt half way down the block) in 34 years!!! My brother "hung it up" when he was 8 and said he wasn't riding it until the boys quit trying to beat him up for it! Guess he's still got that problem! 'Shell'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #23 October 11, 2006 Think he'll let me borrow it to relive my childhood? WHEELIES galore!! LOLI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #24 October 11, 2006 QuoteThink he'll let me borrow it to relive my childhood? WHEELIES galore!! LOL Well, considering it resides at MY house ... we might be able to negotiate something! Possession is 9/10th's, right??! And it still has the "warning" label on the seat not to double anyone! Guess no wheelies with me on the back! 'Shell'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeiber 0 #25 October 12, 2006 Quote>Have you considered swapping the front knobby tire for a road slick? Oh, definitely. This is just the 'conceptual phase' so to speak. It needs a new battery, better wiring, a decent charger, better front tire, better brake caliper, and a new bottom bracket. But for now it will do for testing. I still say you need a sidecar....Shhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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