Thanatos340 1 #1 September 22, 2006 [RANT] Vegas was sooooo much better when the Mob still ran it. Now that corporate america runs it, You really get screwed... And no sign of a reach around. It used to be that you went to Vegas knowing you really were not going to win.. But thats ok because they treated you great from the time you walked in till the time you left. They would feed you like a king, Keep the drinks coming, treat you with respect.. all as long as you kept gambling. When you left, Your wallet was a little Lighter but you were paying for entertainment. It was worth it. $2.99 Prime Rib dinners were every where, The Drinks were strong, The dealers were friendly. The Mob knew how keep you coming back. Things are now so very different there. Meals are ridiculously over priced. I was there for 5 days and never spent less than $50 for Dinner for just me and these were not even the nicer restaurants. The drinks were watered down, Trying to find a cocktail waitress was next to impossible. $5 and $10 tables??? Forget it. No where to be found.. And this wasn’t even one of the nicer Casinos.. This was the Flamingo. While I am Far from a Whale, but I am a pretty serious gambler that put alot of money in play. At one point I was at a Craps table.. Down about $600 in the past 20 minutes.. Still had another $1K in front of me.. I would have between $300 and $500 in play on any given roll.. And I couldnt even get the House to Comp a Pack of Smokes... Noooo they wanted $10 for Ciggs. I order a Drink... RedBull and Vodka.. "We can Comp the Vodka, But you have to pay for the red-Bull sir" ($5 for a Red Bull BTW) This was a $25 Craps Table. I look down and I have 4 Points with MAX Odds across the board... And have been playing this way for quite a while. I call for the pitt boss.. "Corporate policy" is all he can say. The Craps Tables??? (My true weakness...) Now are 3/4/5x MAX Odds. WTF??? Used to be 10X and 20X Tables were everywhere. (Casino Royal does still 100x Odds I found out later) Black Jack?? Only Single deck every where. I hate single deck. Much bigger house edge because BJ only pays 6 to 5. ON Monday Morning for a couple of hours.. They did open a $15 Table.. Lowest Limit I saw there all week. And now for one thing I just could not believe.. The thing that finally sent me over the edge... $4 fee to use the ATM in a casino. WTF??? Used to be if you had $20 under your mattress at home... A friendly Pitt Boss would help you figure out a way to get to it if you were going to put it in play.. Now they are Charging you to get your Money so you can give it to them?? Too Much. Bring back the Mob!!! They ran Vegas sooooo much better. [/RANT] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randy_H 0 #2 September 22, 2006 The town will never be the same. After the Tangiers, the big corporations took it all over. Today it looks like Disneyland. And while the kids play cardboard pirates, Mommy and Daddy drop the house payments and Junior's college money on the poker slots. In the old days, dealers knew your name, what you drank, what you played. Today, it's like checkin' into an airport. And if you order room service, you're lucky if you get it by Thursday. Today, it's all gone. You get a whale show up with four million in a suitcase, and some twenty-five-year-old hotel school kid is gonna want his Social Security Number. After the Teamsters got knocked out of the box, the corporations tore down practically every one of the old casinos. And where did the money come from to rebuild the pyramids? Junk bonds.010010010110010101100001011101000111000001110101011100110111001101111001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apollard24 0 #3 September 22, 2006 Funny that you say all this. I was watching a show the other day and cant remember what channel but they were saying exactly what your rant is about. They went all over Vegas and were talking to some of the guys that ran Vegas back in the day and saying how much better it was then.Breathe out so I can breathe you in... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #4 September 22, 2006 Ok... You hear - hear a little girl, Frankie? You hear a little girl, Ace? Is that a little fuckin' girl? What happened to the fuckin' tough guy that told my friend to stick it up his fuckin' ass, huh? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randy_H 0 #5 September 22, 2006 A lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes. But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all fuckin' night.010010010110010101100001011101000111000001110101011100110111001101111001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #6 September 22, 2006 I guess that's why I don't "DO" Vegas. I never knew the old Vegas and have no interest in the way it is now for the reasons you mentioned. I never understood the allure, but I can undertand it if it was like the old days. It is definitelt not worth the amount of money I spend just to go hang out in a casino.(if I were on vacation I may think differently but I live here.) BTW- Sorry I missed you, but I was busy all week anyway.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #7 September 22, 2006 What about downtown? Downtown's still got a little old-school left in it."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #8 September 22, 2006 In Vegas, everybody's gotta watch everybody else. Since the players are looking to beat the casino, the dealers are watching the players. The box men are watching the dealers. The floor men are watching the box men. The pit bosses are watching the floor men. The shift bosses are watching the pit bosses. The casino manager is watching the shift bosses. I'm watching the casino manager. And the eye-in-the-sky is watching us all. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #9 September 22, 2006 Atleast those guys had some sort of Code of Ethics... Unlike Corporate America. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randy_H 0 #10 September 22, 2006 You called my friend a faggot? You told him to go fuck himself? Is that what you did? You told him to go fuck himself? You fuckin' hick! You fuckin' hick you! Come here! Quote Ok... You hear - hear a little girl, Frankie? You hear a little girl, Ace? Is that a little fuckin' girl? What happened to the fuckin' tough guy that told my friend to stick it up his fuckin' ass, huh? ---------------------------------- No matter how big a guy might be, Nicky would take him on. You beat Nicky with fists, he comes back with a bat. You beat him with a knife, he comes back with a gun. And you beat him with a gun, you better kill him, because he'll keep comin' back and back until one of you is dead. I absolutely LOVE Casino!! One of the best films EVER!010010010110010101100001011101000111000001110101011100110111001101111001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #11 September 22, 2006 I absolutely LOVE Casino!! One of the best films EVER! *** Agreed... ~that and Goodfellas..."All my life...all I ever wanted to be....was a GANGSTER!" ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #12 September 22, 2006 Nicky was based on Tony the Ant Spilotro. He was very real and just as Mean. Actually that entire movie is based on mostly true events. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrabGrass 0 #13 September 22, 2006 I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do. For instance tomorrow morning ill get up nice and early, take a walk down over to the bank and... walk in and see and uh... if you don't have my money for me, I'll... crack your fuckin' head wide-open in front of everybody in the bank. And just about the time that I'm comin' out of jail, hopefully, you'll be coming out of your coma. And guess what? I'll split your fuckin' head open again. 'Cause I'm fuckin' stupid. I don't give a fuck about jail. That's my business. That's what I do. ~ "Pack Fast, Pull Low... and Date Your Riggers WIFE!" ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrabGrass 0 #14 September 22, 2006 And if The Ant knew you were calling it the Mofia he'd split yer head open with a BAT! ~ "Pack Fast, Pull Low... and Date Your Riggers WIFE!" ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #15 September 22, 2006 Tunica, Ms still has some of the "treat you right" happening, but I hate everything else about it. I've never been to Vegas but I picture it as sort of tacky/cool in it's prime. Tunica is just cheesy and the drinks are watered but they keep 'em coming and will bring you some smokes.I am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #16 September 22, 2006 QuoteTunica Yep. Jack is still there running his casino and has alot of his fathers Ideals. (Much unlike his Dumb ass Sister Becky that Ran the Horseshoe into the ground and then sold it after it went bust). Too bad Jack Binion cant own a Casino in Las Vegas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randy_H 0 #17 September 22, 2006 followed by Nicky saying to Ace, "Do you think he got the message?" with a big smile on his face!! "This guy is on the up and up, he is going to go to the feds!!" ----------------------------------- - What the fuck happened to you? - What happened to me? - What happened to you? You lost control. - I lost control? Look at you, you're fuckin' walkin' around like John Barrymore. A pink robe and a fuckin' cigarette holder? I lost control? ------------------------------------------ For you 'Casino' junkies...clicky!010010010110010101100001011101000111000001110101011100110111001101111001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #18 September 22, 2006 Quote And if The Ant knew you were calling it the Mofia he'd split yer head open with a BAT! The A N T should have gone here! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #19 September 22, 2006 . . . comes cash. Tons of it. I mean, what do you think we're doing out here in the middle of the desert? It's all this money. This is the end result of all the bright lights and the comped trips, of all the champagne and free hotel suites, and all the broads and all the booze. It's all been arranged just for us to get your money. That's the truth about Las Vegas. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lauraliscious 0 #20 September 22, 2006 Sounds like you had fun. Sorry I missed it. Enemiga Rodriguez, PMS #369, OrFun #25, Team Dirty Sanchez #116, Pelt Head #29, Muff #4091 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmpnkramer 0 #21 September 22, 2006 SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU ARE BEING A >>>>>>> W.A.B.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>>>>>>>>>>> .The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McBeth 0 #22 September 22, 2006 I'm sure you managed to have fun anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #23 September 22, 2006 QuoteW.A.B.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow!! From the Original WAB even.. I feel special. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmpnkramer 0 #24 September 22, 2006 What up BUM! You might have to come down to FLorida upon my return. Have a little PARTY! I will also be coming in that direction as well. I shall spread myself thin as usual! Laters, K-MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Revillusion 0 #25 September 22, 2006 Wow Jay, that sounds so unlike Vegas. I was over at Gulfport couple weekends ago .. and as expected, no comps whatsoever, but then again, didn't expect it there. Maybe we should do a junket down to Grand Bahama next time. VIRTUS JUNXIT MORS NON SEPARABIT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
