freeflir29 0 #1 October 20, 2006 So if your employer tells you that you cannot consume alcohol EVER. Is that legal? I know there was a big controversy over a ST Louis (I think) company banning smoking and they got away with it. Can I sue? I'll most likely just quit but it's a funny option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #2 October 20, 2006 How about just quit, nothing is funny about getting sued. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #3 October 20, 2006 How about standing up for your personal freedoms? Nothing is funny about despotism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #4 October 20, 2006 QuoteHow about just quit, nothing is funny about getting sued. Are you talking about quitting drinking or quitting the job? Cause.........I'll quit the job LONG before I quit drinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBachelor 5 #5 October 20, 2006 Once case I remember about not employing smokers was due to higher health-care costs. The bottom line was the employer could do whatever he wanted. I don't see a difference when it comes to alcohol. I'm not sure if state or federal law is involved, so it may depend on which state you live in.There are battered women? I've been eating 'em plain all of these years... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #6 October 20, 2006 Seems like an employment contract can allow that. I think it would make sense if you can always be on call - they can't have someone they've called in an emergency have alcohol on them. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #7 October 20, 2006 QuoteOnce case I remember about not employing smokers was due to higher health-care costs. The bottom line was the employer could do whatever he wanted. I don't see a difference when it comes to alcohol. I'm not sure if state or federal law is involved, so it may depend on which state you live in. I have to agree. I'm not a lawyer, but I seem to remember this deal. It was a Mich company. A woman sued them and lost her case. I don't think you have a leg to stand on Clay. One of many I found with Google. CBS News "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #8 October 20, 2006 QuoteOnce case I remember about not employing smokers was due to higher health-care costs. The bottom line was the employer could do whatever he wanted. I don't see a difference when it comes to alcohol. I'm not sure if state or federal law is involved, so it may depend on which state you live in. The difference will be that a doctor can prove that certain alcohol, in moderation, can be healthy - i.e., red wine. Nothing healthy about ciggies. My bet is that a jury would find on the side of the drinker. But yeah, probably not worth it. :)_______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishcelt 0 #9 October 20, 2006 Could it be seen as a morality clause kind of thing? Is he working in a dry country? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #10 October 20, 2006 How are supposed to do your job? I see you list your occupation as "beer drinker." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #11 October 20, 2006 so, the man said you cant ever drink? or just not on the job? and sueing sucks. unless its revenge for something totaly stupid as in NON liability things. -SPACE- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #12 October 21, 2006 The bottom line is this: if you are in an "employment at will" state (or in your case, if your US "home office" is...), your employer can set damned near any condition of employment it wishes that is not otherwise unlawful or a violation of public policy. Time to start getting used to Snapple. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #13 October 21, 2006 if you are scontracted 24/7 to them (like military) then yeah while you are on their DOLLAR they can probably dictate the terms and conditions.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #14 October 21, 2006 My contract says 72 hours per week. That DOES leave SOME time off. They would just fall back on the "At Will" employment clause. I don't think I would have a leg to stand on legally but I would throw a HELL of an ass whoopin over the money lost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
demoss99 0 #15 October 21, 2006 I have obviously not read your contract; but how can you be both a contractual and at will employee? Doesn't your contract establish an expectation of continued employment? "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #16 October 22, 2006 It's just how it's done. My employer has pretty much the same contract with their employer. The US Govt. At any time they can say.........."We won't be needing your services anymore." I think it's mostly because I work in Iraq. Everyone realizes that the President can decide at any time for all American interests to leave. No company or govt agency wants to be left "Holding the bag" and owe millions to pay off contracts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #17 October 22, 2006 Did your boss tell you this before you took the job? Was it in the contract? .. Does it apply anywhere or just when you're in IRAQ? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #18 October 22, 2006 Nope.............recent (As of Yesterday) developement. Apparently it only applies while I am in country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #19 October 22, 2006 That hardly seems fair... except for the in a Muslim country bit... but that should have always been the case then really, shouldn't it? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #20 October 23, 2006 Most gov't contracts are "at will". The gov't reserves the right to drop a contracting company (or employee) for any/all reason....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #21 October 23, 2006 did they say anything about the sheep ?? scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #22 October 23, 2006 Quoteexcept for the in a Muslim country bit... Uhhh...........I live in a Christian neighborhood. There are several bars within a few blocks of my house. Quotedid they say anything about the sheep ?? Nope...........that's perfectly acceptable according to local custom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites