CanuckInUSA 0 #1 November 2, 2006 I was thinking about this today and I can't be the first person who thinks they know of a way for the NCAA to keep their Football Bowl Games and still have a playoff system for the National Championship. Part of the problem: The NCAA has 6 Bowl games scheduled this season from December 19th to the 24th. Another 14 Bowl games are scheduled from December 26th to the 30th. 8 Bowl games on New Years day and the National Championship on January 8th. Of course the National Championship is determined by the BCS (Beyond a Controversial Solution) and who should be in that game is not always correct in many people's minds. So ... Why doesn't the NCAA take the top 8 BCS teams and make the #1 seed play the #8 seed, #2 plays #7, #3 plays #6 and #4 plays #5 all during the week leading up to Christmas Eve day. They've already scheduled 6 games that week, so instead of seeing two 7-5 or 8-4 teams duke it out, why not watch the Quarter-Final Bowl games instead. They can still invite a slew of other teams to fill in the 14 games between Christmas and New Years and then all they need to do is take 2 games away from the 8 regular New Years day Bowl games and make that the National Championship semi-finals and then of course the National Championship game (complete with a playoff system, but still keeping the traditions of the Bowl games) is played a week after the New Years games are played. I wouldn't expect the NCAA to change this year, but why aren't they doing something like this? Quarter Finals, Semi-Finals and then the Finals all during pre-existing scheduled Bowl games at predetermined stadiums. It doesn't seem all that difficult. Or is it? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #2 November 2, 2006 As a foot note. The only down side I see to my solution is that it could be expensive for the die hard fans who MUST be there in person at the games to support their team. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 November 2, 2006 Much easier, faster and cheaper solution will be to just give it to OSU every year. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #4 November 2, 2006 QuoteMuch easier, faster and cheaper solution will be to just give it to OSU every year. You guys haven't dealt with Michigan yet. I'm not about to side with either team. But it should be a good game to watch. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #5 November 2, 2006 Steve your solution is entirely too simple, therefore it could never work. I think they don't change it because of the serious money involved with sponsorships, naming rights, etc. It is a good idea though. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #6 November 2, 2006 QuoteSteve your solution is entirely too simple, therefore it could never work. On the contrary, the plan actually would work, which is exactly why they will never do it. If you've followed NCAA football for more than a few years, you've seen them institute a whole slew of changes that just don't work, and very few that actually do. It's their MO, it's what they do. Your plan would work, ergo it will never happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #7 November 2, 2006 The problem with that is that the college presidents that are now finding themselves left out of bowls and the bowl money will not let it happen. The closest thing they can realistically come up with is going to be a Plus 1 system. BCS top four play and the winners play in the Plus 1 Championship game. Lower ranked colleges get their bowl and bowl money and there is kinda a playoff system. If your not in the top four shut the fu*k Up the big controversies on rankings generally dont extend past the top four with much merit. The Plus 1 is a win win. More $ More TV $ More College Football Action. That system makes way too much sense.. Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #8 November 2, 2006 Just do it the way the NCAA Basketball tourney is set up...You win.. you move on.. you lose and you get to watch for the rest of the tourney. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #9 November 2, 2006 There are legitimate arguments about how many football games you ask amateurs to play, especially as the weather gets colder and the injury rate rises (just another reason to pay them in my mind). A large tourney like the 64 team basketball playoff is not feasible. I like Canuck's 8 team playoff myself. I think it could happen a bit later though. I think the big game should take place on Saturday before the Superbowl. It would intensify the havoc that that weekend represents throughout the country and (this is important for the University presidents) would require all the seniors on the four final teams to register for the spring semester. Who knows it may even create one or two more graduates a year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #10 November 2, 2006 << If your not in the top four shut the fu*k Up the big controversies on rankings generally dont extend past the top four with much merit. >> There are 29 Bowl games meaning 58 of something like 120 Division 1A teams get a Bowl bid? So half the teams are in? My plan would eliminate 12 teams from the 58. But that would still mean 46 teams get their Bowl money. Under the present system there are 28 meaningless games (yes they are fun to watch, but they really don't count for much) and 1 game which means the whole world. I say if you're not one of the top 46 teams, then do you really deserve Bowl money for that mediocre 6-6 record? Plus if it's really a money thing, why don't they just add 6 more Bowl games and continue to invite 58 teams to the party (hey I like Bowl games and wouldn't want to see them all go away). Also, the reason why I include 8 teams instead of the 4 you're advocating is that the BCS is still a someone what controversial system. Under the BCS it's still possible for a 12-0 team NOT to finish in the top 4. But a 12-0 team should finish somewhere in the top 8 and if a 12-0 team can't crack the top 8 then there is something radically wrong with the whole BCS ... period. But what do I know. I'm just a Canuck living back home in the frozen tundra where they play this bizaare form of football with 3 downs instead of 4 (pretty much taking the running game and play action out of the game), they use a massive field with monsterous undefendable end zones, their football is twice the size as a normal football and it's hard to throw it with any style and what's worse, they award a single point for failure (you get 1 point in Canadian football if you miss a field goal attempt and the ball is no longer in play ... how messed up is that?). Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrodh 0 #11 November 2, 2006 I agree there should be a playoff. That way I can see my Gators play in a few games before they win the National Championship. GO GATORS2 BITS....4 BITS....6 BITS....A DOLLAR!....ALL FOR THE GATORS....STAND UP AND HOLLER!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #12 November 2, 2006 Quote But what do I know. I'm just a Canuck living back home in the frozen tundra where they play this bizaare form of football with 3 downs instead of 4 (pretty much taking the running game and play action out of the game), they use a massive field with monsterous undefendable end zones, their football is twice the size as a normal football and it's hard to throw it with any style and what's worse, they award a single point for failure (you get 1 point in Canadian football if you miss a field goal attempt and the ball is no longer in play ... how messed up is that?). It's called a rouge, and if you don't like it don't let them get that close. If you repel the barbarians at the gate there is always some damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFKING 4 #13 November 2, 2006 QuoteYou guys haven't dealt with Michigan yet. I'm not about to side with either team. Go ahead and pick a side.....I know you're an intelligent man, and will pick the Maize and Blue. I suspect Erk will ban at least one Michigan fan after they pound the Buckeyes. I've always thought.......limit the season to 10 games. and keep the BCS standings. Take the top 16 teams and play it out to the death. I'd prefer 8 teams also, but you'll always have undefeated non-power-conference teams ranked 11th or 12th who would be bitching. 16 teams would include everyone with a legitimate shot at winning 4 games in a row to take the national title. Teams that missed out on the playoffs could still be invited to play in bowl games. Playoffs work in every level of football from grade school, to high school, to collegte Divisions II and III, to the pros. It's a farce that the university presidents have been able to deny us a true playoff system for as long as they have. Don"When in doubt I whip it out, I got me a rock-and-roll band. It's a free-for-all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #14 November 2, 2006 QuoteGo ahead and pick a side.....I know you're an intelligent man, and will pick the Maize and Blue. I suspect Erk will ban at least one Michigan fan after they pound the Buckeyes. I'm much more likely to side with Michigan when they play OSU. But I have to warn you that none of the Big X teams does much for me. I like a few select SEC and ACC teams as well as a few select Pac X teams (shit I'll even admit that I occasionally support some of the Big XII teams). But the team I support the most (the CU Buffs) sucks this season and likely never will be a serious NC threat. But I still like them and will cheer for them even when they are a dismal 1-8. Let's go Buffalos!!! But to make you happy and at the same time taking a risk of pissing off a certain greenie ... Let's go Wolverines. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #15 November 2, 2006 Quote << If your not in the top four shut the fu*k Up the big controversies on rankings generally dont extend past the top four with much merit. >> v The problem is that the skewed ranking system is what results in the rankings. So the listed top teams aren't very accurate quite often. I'm sure you've noticed that the BCS favors certain confrences too.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #16 November 2, 2006 QuoteI'm sure you've noticed that the BCS favors certain confrences too. Yes I know the SEC teams are Gods while the Big XII currently gets little respect. I think this is two fold. With the exception of the state of Texas, football in the SEC area is bigger than football in the Big XII areas. Plus I believe that there is more parity in the Big XII schools leading to less impressive records. Look at the Buffs (not to be confused with a really good team). They have got to be better than their 1-8 record dictates. They've just had a bad year losing some close games. Plus look at Texas. Sure they lost to OSU 24-7. But it's not like they got blown away. I'm sure Texas would be a top team in any conference they played in. But because they play in a conference with a lot of parity, the get shafted on the respect side of these polls. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #17 November 2, 2006 Quote Look at the Buffs (not to be confused with a really good Big Ten team). Also true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #18 November 2, 2006 QuoteQuote Look at the Buffs (not to be confused with a really good Big Ten team). Also true. Well since they lost to Montana State and Baylor, then yes I must relunctantly agree that the Buffs are actually a Div 1AA school masquerading as a Div 1A school. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #19 November 2, 2006 Personally I don't care who wins the Ohio St-MI game but i think it will be great to watch. As a Big Ten fan (Illinois), I'd love to see the 2 rematch for the title game. And no, I don't think we'll beat tO$U this weekend, but i hope we put up a good fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites