Roofies

[waltappel 1]

I'm pretty naive about some things. For example, when crack cocaine first started getting some press I thought they were making it all up because I had never heard of it.

This may be another case of it. I was surfing the net a couple of days ago and ran across some discussion of "roofies", i.e., a substance that can be put in someone's drink to knock them out. Supposedly, this is done as a prelude to rape.

Is this shit for real or urban legend?

Do you law enforcement guys know what someone would be charged with for doing this? Does it matter whether it is a prescription drug, over the counter drug, or illegal drug?

I have a hard time imagining anyone really doing this--it's really evil.

Walt

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wake up with a sore ass again did ya?

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[kelel01 1]

Holy 1993, Batman!

I'm pretty certain they are real and in use. However, I also know several people who think they were slipped one, when they really just got very drunk.

[waltappel 1]

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wake up with a sore ass again did ya?

No, but now I'll be scared to go to sleep for a loooooooong time!!!!

Walt

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Holy 1993, Batman!

I'm pretty certain they are real and in use. However, I also know several people who think they were slipped one, when they really just got very drunk.

That's what I'm talking about. I've never talked with anyone who was sure they were drugged like that.

Walt

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Is this shit for real or urban legend?

I believe it is for real... and it is really uncool and evil.

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[freeflir29 0]

How do you skydive inside that cave you live in?

[greybeard 0]

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[swedishcelt 0]

Roofies, date-rape drug. Yes they all exist.

[freeflir29 0]

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I have a hard time imagining anyone really doing this--it's really evil.

Are you saying I was wrong to think it part of a sound and complete dating plan?

[Samurai136 0]

Rohypnol

It's real.

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Drug-facilitated Sexual Assault
Flunitrazepam is known to induce anterograde amnesia in sufficient doses; individuals are unable to remember certain events that they experienced while under the influence of the drug. This effect is particularly dangerous when flunitrazepam is used to aid in the commission of sexual assault; victims may not be able to clearly recall the assault, the assailant, or the events surrounding the assault.

It is difficult to estimate just how many flunitrazepam-facilitated rapes have occurred in the past. Very often, biological samples are taken from the victim at a time when the effects of the drug have already passed and only residual amounts remain in the body fluids. These residual amounts are difficult, and sometimes impossible, to detect using standard screening assays available in the United States. If flunitrazepam exposure is to be detected at all, urine samples need to be collected within 72 hours and subjected to sensitive analytical tests. The problem is compounded by the onset of amnesia after ingestion of the drug, which causes the victim to be uncertain about the facts surrounding the rape. This uncertainty may lead to critical delays or even reluctance to report the rape and provide appropriate biological samples for testing. If a person suspects that he or she is the victim of a flunitrazepam-facilitated rape, he or she should get laboratory testing for flunitrazepam as soon as possible.

It must be noted that an inability to remember events, including sexual encounters, is not conclusive evidence of having consumed a drugged drink: Drunkenness itself causes blackouts, sleepiness, and a reduction in inhibitions. Only a timely screening for flunitrazepam can demonstrate its use

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Ken

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I'm pretty naive about some things. For example, when crack cocaine first started getting some press I thought they were making it all up because I had never heard of it.

This may be another case of it. I was surfing the net a couple of days ago and ran across some discussion of "roofies", i.e., a substance that can be put in someone's drink to knock them out. Supposedly, this is done as a prelude to rape.

Is this shit for real or urban legend?

Do you law enforcement guys know what someone would be charged with for doing this? Does it matter whether it is a prescription drug, over the counter drug, or illegal drug?

I have a hard time imagining anyone really doing this--it's really evil.

Walt

Yes it exist. Yes people use them. Yes people are evil.

[Butters 0]

I tried to use one last weekend. I slipped one into my drink but passed out before I could rape myself.

PS: Rape is for losers, are you a loser? Well, are you?

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[moodyskydiver 0]

Unfortunately there are what have been termed "date rape drugs" out there and people do use them to victimize others. Its not pretty.A "roofie" from my understanding, is just a slang term for these drugs.Rohypnol, a benzodiazepine (tranqualizer) that is similar to Valuim has become popular as the newest date rape drug.

Because of crap like this,women have had to become more proactive about their safety.When it comes to date rape drugs, we females follow some simple rules:

Dont let anyone bring you a drink unless you trust them implictly (best girl friend etc).
Dont let your drink out of you sight at any time,even when going to the bathroom...take it with you or throw it out and get a new one afterwards.
Dont set your drink down and then retrieve it..people can switch cups easily.
Dont drink out of anyone else's cup if they offer a "really cool drink" and say "here just have a sip".
Even if you keep your drink with you at all times still keep a close eye on it or keep it covered with your hand..it doesnt take much for someone to distract you and drop something in it.

Even with all that its still always wise to use the buddy system.Come to a party with friends and leave with those same friends.Its cool to hookup with new people but you can always get a phone number and see them again another day.If they are legitimately interested and not shady then they wont mind.

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[Scoop 0]

Yeah, some sad people do. Try a search for GHB in google. Was a real concern for a while

[PLFXpert 0]

Rohypnol, aka "roofies" is definitely not an urban legend.

My first reaction to your question was my phrase of everyday, "Are you fucking kidding me?" but then I realized roofies is likely a generational thing. But it's been around for quite some time. In my high school it was quite common for kids to take--not to knock themselves out, but to enhance the effects of alcohol, etc. I've never had one; never wanted to; never allowed a drink to be poured for me I didn't witness.

In college, it was better known as a date-rape drug; and was used all too frequently. Every day girls ended up at Shands near UF (where I went) due to the use of this drug. When I say "every day" I'm not exaggerating.

Seriously, seriously, a problem drug amongst the high-school/college crowd.

Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

[livendive 8]

I keep a couple on hand, but only to induce amnesia in myself. If I find I need to don beer-goggles in order to perform, I most certainly don't want to remember. On the other hand, if it's the chick who needs to don beer-goggles to do me, she'll be more willing if she knows I won't remember her name or number afterwards. Win-win!

Blues,
Dave

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[Broke 0]

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_57084.htm

interesting enough...

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[Nightingale 0]

It's real.


From Snopes:
Assailants' making use of drugs such as Rohypnol (commonly
known as "roofies") to incapacitate women and facilitate sexual assault is a genuine problem. Rohypnol (flunitrazepam) is a potent sedative that is available relatively cheaply, takes effect fairly quickly (about 20-30 minutes) after administration, typically lasts for several hours. It is especially effective as a "date rape" facilitator because it can so easily be disguised and furtively administered (typically by adding it to a drink), and (especially when combined with alcohol) it can result in the victim's experiencing a memory loss for much of the period between ingestion and recovery.

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http://www.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_57084.htm

interesting enough...

That is some weird shit!

Walt

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I have a hard time imagining anyone really doing this--it's really evil.

Are you saying I was wrong to think it part of a sound and complete dating plan?

What's the deal? Aren't sheep already attracted to you?

Walt

[LouDiamond 1]

Since you're getting up to speed on this topic, here is another one in the same vein for you. Used for similar purposes as Roofies, but not as widely known about in the USA, scopolamine has found a wide use in South American countries not only on foreigners but the general population to aid in robbery. Scopolamine is used criminally as a date rape drug and as an aid to robbery, the most common act being the clandestine drugging of a victim's drink. It is preferred because it induces retrograde amnesia, or an inability to recall events prior to its administration. Victims of this crime are often admitted to a hospital in police custody, under the assumption that the patient is experiencing a psychotic episode. A telltale sign is a fever accompanied by a lack of sweat.

In Colombia a plant mixture containing scopolamine called Burundanga has been used shamanically for decades. In recent years its criminal use (as outlined above) has become an epidemic. Approximately fifty percent of emergency room admissions for poisoning in Bogotá have been attributed to scopolamine. Also in Caracas, Venezuela, crime related to burundanga techniques has multiplied in the last years.

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[waltappel 1]

That is some really fucked up stuff. Is everyone at risk for that stuff or is it primarily directed toward foreigners (e.g., tourists and people there on business)?

Walt

[JENNR8R 0]

I have no idea why, but scopolamine (aka, twilight sleep) was given to me during childbirth with my first child in 1977. It was an old-fashioned drug at the time. I've never heard of anyone else of my generation that had it. It was commonly used in my mother's generation during childbirth.

It's evil stuff. It took away any control I had to do Lamaze breathing to control the pain contractions... for 12 hours. They told my husband that he had to leave, and the only people left in the room with me were a nurse and an aide who watched television while I begged them for help. I'm not bitter or anything. I saw the nurse a few days later in the hall, and I almost decked her.

What do you call a beautiful, sunny day that comes after two cloudy, rainy
ones? -- Monday.

[waltappel 1]

I was given Versed before a surgery and it was really disturbing. I remembered getting the shot but I wasn't aware of anything else until after the surgery was over. I don't ever want to experience that again and have a hard time imagining that anyone would use a drug with that kind of effect recreationally.

Walt