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A question for the ladies

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Hi I'd post this in the womans forum but I'm banned after my wee joke about the veils:$

OK, so the question is what makes you feel claustrophobic in a relationship?
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Feeling like I'm being herded in a "togetherness" direction in everything, or feeling as though my feelings are somehow wrong because I don't see things the same way.

It's those unspoken expectations. Also, being reminded that my actions are in charge of someone else's happiness. They're not. Your happiness is your problem, mine is my problem. A compatible relationship keeps in mind what the other likes and doesn't like, but doesn't crush each person with the knowledge that missteps are the cause of misery.

Too much togetherness can be as bad as too little. How much is too much or too little depends on the people, too. What's too much for some might be too little for others.

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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It's those unspoken expectations.



If they are unspoken then how do you know if they are really there or your just your interpretation of what you think is going on (This honestly isn't a PA and I'm glad you responded to this thread, I'm just curious)

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Too much togetherness can be as bad as too little.


Do you just mean physically being together or something more than that?

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When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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Too much togetherness can be as bad as too little. How much is too much or too little depends on the people, too. What's too much for some might be too little for others.

Wendy W.



Very well said ! I feel the same about that.

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Feeling like I'm being herded in a "togetherness" direction in everything, or feeling as though my feelings are somehow wrong because I don't see things the same way.

It's those unspoken expectations. Also, being reminded that my actions are in charge of someone else's happiness. They're not. Your happiness is your problem, mine is my problem. A compatible relationship keeps in mind what the other likes and doesn't like, but doesn't crush each person with the knowledge that missteps are the cause of misery.

Too much togetherness can be as bad as too little. How much is too much or too little depends on the people, too. What's too much for some might be too little for others.



ding, ding, ding! Smart answer.

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When I get treated absolutely horribly for 2 months and then he suddenly decides he wants me and smothers me with attention and affection that I do not believe is real....and I don't want to be around him at that point anyway.[:/]
Mrs. WaltAppel

All things work together for good to them that love God...Romans 8:28

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how do you know if they are really there or your just your interpretation of what you think is going on

That's a perfectly valid question, and gets to the heart of it. You can't know.

How do you guess? Well, if she wants to go out with friends, and you act kind of blue because you'd hoped she'd stay with you. If she wants to take her dog to training classes on a night that she's spent watching a particular program with you in the past (this one happened to me). If you call her repeatedly every day, during the day, "just to hear her voice" and she never calls you back for the same reason, and never says "gosh I'm so glad you call me all the time."

And the point really is different for different people. Not everyone has "a point" that they can point to; it might even be different for one partner than the next. It's an interaction.

But the part I said about feeling as though someone else's happiness is dependent on you is a huge piece of it for me.

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Not having time to or for myself. I need to be alone at times. I enjoy the quietness of a house all to myself. I also need time with my girlfriends. Don't call to check up on me and ask how my dinner is/going, don't call me and ask if I am gonna stay out all night @ 2 in the morning. If it is that time, you can bet your ass I am planning on staying out all night!;)If I don't get "my time" I am extremely bitchy!

OBTW...he gets to go out too, no questions asked. For me, it is a double edged sword.;)

Bobbi
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I completely agree, except for one point. If I can reasonably expect you to come home on a night when you end up staying out all night, a phone call is appreciated. Note, this is only on nights when I have reason to believe you may be coming over, not necessarily every night. Because if I think you might be coming over and I don't hear from you, I get worried.

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Yeah, but it's kind of hard to place a phone call when you're tied up in the trunk of some serial killer's car. I know, it's an extreme example, but it happens.

It's just a courtesy. If you're going to be out all night, a quick phone call or even a text message takes two seconds and can ease your SO's mind. And it goes both ways, if I'm going to be out all night I'd send one, too. I'm not attempting to control anyone, or tell you what you can and can't do, just asking that you be courteous.

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To a bloke that sounds reasonable, but does it sound reasonable to women? Or would that be seen as suffocating and or controlling behaviour?
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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Depends on how it's presented. If it's "you call and tell me where you are" that's one thing... if it's "please don't make me worry" that's different. I know it's probably hard to understand.... but one is control, the other care. It's a thin line. But... if she cares about him, he shouldn't HAVE to tell her to call... she just would. So the TELLING her to call is a bit unnecessary.

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