phoenixlpr 0 #26 March 4, 2007 Quote I've had a brand new pilot (2 years ago) and a brand new Sabre2 (last year) - the marerial on the Pilot was made from teflon coated snot, whilst the Sabre2 was simply bananaskins on ice. Wink Still, it was hard to fold and it was even harder to roll. I started packing on plastic floor at home, I got a silicone wet stain there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RossDagley 0 #27 March 4, 2007 Oh man - I tried packing my Sabre on the living room floor here at home (polished wood) - never again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #28 March 4, 2007 Quote Oh man - I tried packing my Sabre on the living room floor here at home (polished wood) - never again Crazy Nice. You receive at least the half of the message. Yes, I did put a piece of carpet under it, but using a humidifier helped a lot. Packing any stone dry canopy suck big time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #29 March 4, 2007 > Oh man - I tried packing my Sabre on the living room floor here at home (polished wood) - never again I would point out that finished wood/painted concrete are among the best materials to pack on when it comes to canopy longevity, and carpeting is about the worst (especially outdoor carpeting.) But since most canopies last several thousand jumps even being packed on more-abrasive surfaces, that may not be a big deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bofh 0 #30 March 4, 2007 Quote>I would point out that finished wood/painted concrete are among the best materials to pack on when it comes to canopy longevity, and carpeting is about the worst (especially outdoor carpeting.) Sorry for being off topic, but where do you rank packing on grass in the shadow? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RossDagley 0 #31 March 4, 2007 Yeah Bill this I've heard before - sand covered (read: outdoor/Perris/etc) carpet being the worst Doesn't help me much with a teflon coated icecube of a new canopy though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #32 March 4, 2007 QuoteI would point out that finished wood/painted concrete are among the best materials to pack on when it comes to canopy longevity, and carpeting is about the worst (especially outdoor carpeting.) But since most canopies last several thousand jumps even being packed on more-abrasive surfaces, that may not be a big deal. It can be good, but it sucks if the floor is against you when you pack a slimy new bitch. I used a regular carpet from cotton for 20-30 pack jobs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #33 March 4, 2007 >It can be good, but it sucks if the floor is against you when you pack a slimy new bitch. No doubt! When we got a new batch of Set-400's from Strong at Brown years back, the tandem chief instructor told us to drag them through the dust as much as possible, and they were packed on a dusty carpet. Wore the fabric rapidly but made it a lot easier to pack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbondvegas 0 #34 March 4, 2007 Brand new...like 0 jumps..no, but I did psycho pack a very near new a demo Pilot...and it wasn't exactly easy...but definitely better than S-Folding.- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #35 March 5, 2007 QuoteNo doubt! When we got a new batch of Set-400's from Strong at Brown years back, the tandem chief instructor told us to drag them through the dust as much as possible, and they were packed on a dusty carpet. Wore the fabric rapidly but made it a lot easier to pack. I've heard similar advice: take it to a beach jump. I'd still rather you a clean carpet under the canopy. That little friction prevents the canopy sliding on the floor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomLemming 0 #36 March 5, 2007 The coloured linegroup markings are great, but I really wish I hadn't learned on these - I feel completely deprived when I have to pack something else now :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomLemming 0 #37 March 5, 2007 QuoteBrand new...like 0 jumps..no, but I did psycho pack a very near new a demo Pilot...and it wasn't exactly easy...but definitely better than S-Folding. The pilot opens pretty slowly anyway - looking at the video for Psycho packing, it looks like this may slow it down even further. Is that the case ? What are pilot openings like after being psycho packed ? And is there a better quality video than the one on skydivingmovies.com ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbondvegas 0 #38 March 5, 2007 http://www.precision.aero/packing/mvc-002v.mpg I don't know if this one is better, as I have not seen the skydivingmovies one but it gets the point across. Also see this page: http://www.precision.aero/packing.htm Yes the pilot does opens slowly and psycho/precision packing does slow it down a wee bit more. Except for the slightly slower opening...the openings are the same as S-Folding.- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #39 March 5, 2007 I don't see any reason to psycho pack it, just learn how to control your canopy."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #40 March 5, 2007 Quote I don't see any reason to psycho pack it, just learn how to control your canopy. So easy to say. I can still remember my fight, it is still clear as it would be yesterday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbondvegas 0 #41 March 5, 2007 QuoteI don't see any reason to psycho pack it, just learn how to control your canopy. And I don't see any reason not to psychopack it. Or...I don't see any reason to S-Fold pack any canopy.- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #42 March 5, 2007 Quote And I don't see any reason not to psychopack it. You are right, besides the fact that it already opens slow, and that Aerodyne instructs you to pro pack it, there are no reasons not to psychopack it. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbondvegas 0 #43 March 5, 2007 Touche' BTW-Do you really load your Pilot 168 at 2.23?- - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jheadley 0 #44 March 5, 2007 I've never like psycho packing much, it doesn't really fill out the d-bag evenly. The corners always seem soft and there's a bulge in the middle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #45 March 5, 2007 QuoteTouche' BTW-Do you really load your Pilot 168 at 2.23? What do you think "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt1215 0 #46 March 6, 2007 QuoteQuoteTouche' BTW-Do you really load your Pilot 168 at 2.23? What do you think That you must be getting way more of a swoop out of that 168 than most people do . That you must be hot-shit with your landings, and must have done your AFF with a tandem-rig . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #47 March 6, 2007 QuoteYou are right, besides the fact that it already opens slow, and that Aerodyne instructs you to pro pack it, there are no reasons not to psychopack it. Laugh Thats lame. You should know that packing is a religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
