caspar 0 #1 February 7, 2007 just a random thought. i was thinking back to the fatality a while ago where it was thought that the reserve getting wet could of contributed to tension knots [correct me if ive remembered this wrongly]. i was wondering, would spraying something like goretex [waterproof stuff] on the reserve flaps etc work? or would the the spray itself be damaging to F111. or could a reserve container be made to be reasonably watertight [like an added layer of water proof material?]. im not a swooper, just wondering what other people thought."When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highspeeddirt 0 #2 February 7, 2007 UMMM Goretex is a fabric,not a finish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caspar 0 #3 February 7, 2007 sorry, meant the goretex spray you can buy. ive got some for my hiking boots. the water just rolls off."When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #4 February 7, 2007 Quotesorry, meant the goretex spray you can buy. ive got some for my hiking boots. the water just rolls off.really ?? isn't it just a spray which is goretex compatible (which does not degrade the fabric properties)scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #5 February 7, 2007 Most riggers would not pack a reserve in a container that had been treated with that. Not because it is known to cause problems, but because it is Not known to NOT cause problems. I would put it in the same category as dyeing a rig. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 February 7, 2007 The cordura IS waterproof. But the spaces between the flaps aren't. Reserves don't get wet very fast but I understand that this jumper was in the water over her rig several times. (at least three, maybe more) There were other added considerations also. PIA's position from the last technical committee: You can't pack a wet reserve (per FAR's) so why should you be able to jump one? We have no testing with wet reserves, no data to support using a wet reserve use, so PIA cannot support the use of a wet reserve. But how wet is wet? Splashing through the shallow may be one thing. Standing in chin deep water may be another.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caspar 0 #7 February 7, 2007 cheers for the replies. here's another line of thought then. assuming the main problem of the reserve getting wet is the lines. could you make [with materials/substances already in existence] the lines waterproof without degrading them? this is ofcourse completely hypothetical and would i guess involve R&D and testing that i guess wont happen. i was just thinking getting a reserve wet cant be good and well, if there was a real solution out there. (plus i love picking the brains of you experiences guys and riggers out there! "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caspar 0 #8 February 7, 2007 Quote? We have no testing with wet reserves, no data to support using a wet reserve use, so PIA cannot support the use of a wet reserve.. couldnt you just get a main canopy wet to different degrees and jump it 100 times and see what happens?"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #9 February 7, 2007 Quotecouldnt you just get a main canopy wet to different degrees and jump it 100 times and see what happens? That would be a start, but you'd have to have the main be made of the same materials as the reserve, which means F-111 type fabric and different suspension lines. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
