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this is all really good advice. i feel more educated today :)

7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer

[caspar 0]

i dont smoke weed but everyone else swears by smoking a few joints at the end of the night to end the night. when the e wears off, not only will you be awake for ages but you'll probably feel a little "empty/hollow" and just want more...

keep hydrated but dont go nuts and stand there necking pints of water all night.

people always say it and i dont know how true this is but if you sketch out - come up real strong when you arent used to it... drink some OJ, meant to counter the e... ive never done this and been sceptical of this fact but it may do well by you...

nay drama, you'll love it and have a great night. just go with the flow and prepare for the some of the best hugs of your life. you'll probably say "this music is amazing" about 100 times in the night

"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading."

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That reminds me. Near the end of the night, as the E begins wearing off, start drinking heavily. Although you won't feel it immediately, once the E has worn down enough to let the alcohol kick in, you'll go right to sleep.

legend, drinking is the last thing i can do after a night out, but thats mainly coz im a bit of fiend and hit it a bit too hard. generally a dribbling mess at the end of the night.

"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading."

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However, treat MDMA for what it is, an addictive toxin that is not good for your liver and kidneys and will cause transitory neurotransmitter depletion. Long-term use will cause long-term depletion. It is not something to be using regularly, and because it is addictive, you may not have a choice. It is just as bad for you as meth.

Also, if you don't make the E yourself, assume that it was made by some syphyllitic dirtbag covered with oozing pustules in the pee and pube-encrusted bathroom of a house full of psychotic, AK-toting freaks. who think spiders are crawling all over them.

Enjoy!

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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Now, I'm not one to try to tell you what to do, but I work as a paramedic, and let me tell ya, that can be some nasty stuff you're putting into your body. I just attended a training symposium about crystal meth, and the cops that put it on said that about 90% of "ecstacy" that is being dealt today is actually just meth, and that shit is BAD! You wouldn't believe the ingredients (brake fluid, drano, mustard gas, amonia, camp fuel...), as well as the conditions that the stuff is made in. After seeing these kind of conditions both first hand, and in that presentation, it's enough to make me never want to touch the stuff. It can really play havoc with your body as well. It can cause arythmias in the heart (not conducting electricity and beating normally), as well as totally dehydrate you due to it's diuretic effects. Get some bad stuff, or stuff laced with other drugs, it can couse you to lose consciousness and lose your respiratory drive. And one final word of caution is make sure it doesn't become a problem. I deal with hopeless drug addicts on the street almost daily, and it's sad...

EFS,
Sean LR

God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires.

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Now, I'm not one to try to tell you what to do, but I work as a paramedic, and let me tell ya, that can be some nasty stuff you're putting into your body. I just attended a training symposium about crystal meth, and the cops that put it on said that about 90% of "ecstacy" that is being dealt today is actually just meth, and that shit is BAD! You wouldn't believe the ingredients (brake fluid, drano, mustard gas, amonia, camp fuel...), as well as the conditions that the stuff is made in. After seeing these kind of conditions both first hand, and in that presentation, it's enough to make me never want to touch the stuff. It can really play havoc with your body as well. It can cause arythmias in the heart (not conducting electricity and beating normally), as well as totally dehydrate you due to it's diuretic effects. Get some bad stuff, or stuff laced with other drugs, it can couse you to lose consciousness and lose your respiratory drive. And one final word of caution is make sure it doesn't become a problem. I deal with hopeless drug addicts on the street almost daily, and it's sad...

EFS,
Sean LR

What are you talking about? Did you reply to the wrong post?

As stated in my first post, the ONLY time I have ever used MDMA, it was made and tested right before my eyes in a modern, well equipped lab at a highly ranked engineering school; conditions of manufacture in no way resembled what you described. I knew exactly what I was putting in my body.

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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Yeah, it was more directed to the first poster, I just have a bad habit of clicking reply on the last post.

Sean LR

God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires.

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MDA was not addictive- awesome body stone/ mild speed/ enjoyed without need to do more than a few caps. i lived at a place that MDA was being made in the bathtub- then dried out / spent many hrs. capping it/ rock cyrstal speed was heavier so the last capsules capped of every bowl contained considerable more speed/ experimented with it for a year regularly/ no adverse problems with my health/ never knew anyone else that got wired to it even those that injected it/

so
what is the second M in MDMA that makes it addictive?? Does MDMA contain more speed than MDA?

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It is just as bad for you as meth
....will cause transitory neurotransmitter depletion. Long-term use will cause long-term depletion.

i do not understand what happened to "old school" MDA (closest i've experienced to "E")


i know some dudes who thought they had taken E, looked exactly like E tabs but was in fact ketamine....(anaesthetic vets put animals to sleep with not used for humans as they go in and out of anaesthetic state- for days after with no memory of what they did while in this state--any of their bones could be broken without any pain....also called date rape drug) For some reason the drug stays in the system for weeks after administered....They appeared to be "passed out" but could not be woken up- one had blue lips and was white as a ghost, one eye wide open, one eye shut- in ER the doctor explained how it was being sold on the streets in our community as "E"

SMiles

eustress. : a positive form of stress having a beneficial effect on health, motivation, performance, and emotional well-being.

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it's really really really fun. if you've never tried it.. don't drink. do it in halves.. wait about 40 mins to an hour before taking the second half. there is alot of talk about the comedown. i guess everyone is different. i think hangovers are a million times worse. u don't hallucinate unless u have some crazy shit mixed in. u usually just feel the beat really loudly and just want to dance. it's not like alcohol or weed where ur mind feels in a different state. u won't even know it's hit u, all u wanna do is dance and love life and everyone around u. prepare to be really lovey dovey cos when ur on e, the world is amazing and u love everything. time will fly. it's a really happy drug.

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Smiles,

MDA is MethyleneDioxyAmphetamine

MDMA is MethyleneDioxyMethAmphetamine

I'm no expert on either one, but I think MDA was called the "love drug" or something like that.

I'm not sure how addictive MDMA is compared to other drugs, but my guess would be that it is less so than heroin or meth. I have always assumed that meth is more dangerous and addictive tha plain old amphetamine, but have no factual basis for the asumption. What's important is that people not be led to believe that a "classy" club drug is benign and can be used without consequences.

Regarding your first paragraph, MDA and MDMA, are not mixtures of "speed" and something else, they are complete, stand-alone molecules. If stuff was settling or heavier, etc., there was more than one chemical there. Meth, MDA, and MDMA are molecules that have a "core" structure of amphetamine; add a methyl group and you get methamphetamine. There are also stereoisomers, wherein you can have the exact same chemical, but there are two forms of the physical structure in mirror image. Its like looking at your hand from either the front or the back. Sometimes you'll see n L in front of a name, like L-Dopa; that means LevoDopa, which is the "left hand" isomer. D- is rigght hand, as in D-Lysergic Acid. The D- and L- forms of a molecule can cause different effects when you take them. While it may not be a big problem, it still means that people don't relly know what the hell they are taking. That's what is so scary about "labs", a total lack of quality control

Re: your third paragraph, in the US there is no such thing as an "E" pill. MDMA has been a DEA Schedule 1 drug since about 1988 or so. That means there is no legitimate production of it, except possibly for animal research. There is no such thing as an ecstasy pill, at least not one produced in the US. Anyone can press any kind of powder into a pill of any shape. There is no way to know what you are really getting without sending it out for analysis. Most people don't do that; they just rely on word of mouth and trust.

Anyway, I ain't no expert. We made the stuff once (it was actually still legal at the time, but that didn't really matter), tried it, loved it, and that was the end of it. No time for that shit now.

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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God. I just thought about something. What do average, normal people considering taking lessons or doing a tandem think when they stuble across the Bonfire while doing research, and see all these posts about blowjobs, cornholing, bodily gasses, dangerous drugs, etc? Pretty flippin funny!

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

[everymansaved 0]

FYI, ketamine is used in humans. Among other things, it's used in rapid sequence intubation, a process in which a provider sedates and paralyzes a patient in order to place a tube in their throat to control their airway.

EFS
Sean LR

God made firefighters so paramedics would have heroes...and someone can put out the trailer fires.