What say you of Hybrid cars?

[bloody_trauma 2]

well what do you all think of them?

Fly it like you stole it

[cocheese 0]

Did you get it?

[d_squared431 0]

I think they are great except if you live where it snows...

TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1
I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH
You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly

[cocheese 0]

or when getting hit by a Hummer.

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

That was funny, I don't care who ya are!!

Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[cocheese 0]

It's not funny getting hit by a Hummer. I don't care who ya are.

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

No, no its not.....[:/



Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[willard 0]

You mean like a cross between a BMW and a Hummer is a Bummer?

Seriously, though, they are a step in the right direction from an environmental standpoint, but they have a long way to go before they have a substantial impact.

[cocheese 0]

ok so what is funny? lets turn this around.

[d_squared431 0]

You said Hummer.....

TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1
I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH
You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly

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You said Hummer.....

What if they crossed a Hummer with a Chrysler.... would it be called a Cummer?

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[bloody_trauma 2]

roflmao thats damn funni, funnieer than getting hit by a hummer

Fly it like you stole it

[d_squared431 0]

TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1
I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH
You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly

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or when getting hit by a Hummer.

I disagree... this vehicle would probably manage just fine agains a Hummer...

http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_tech/300_hybrids/fact_hybrid_bus.html

or these

http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_tech/300_hybrids/fact_pickup_trucks.html

in general I think hybrids are a good idea. ultimately the dea behind the hybrid concept is to improve the effeciency of the vehicles and as an engineer I like the idea of an efficient system.

Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife...

[Evelyn 0]

I LOVE hybrid cars. My husband and I both have Toyota Prius cars. What I love most about the Prius is the diamond lane stickers. I have a long commute to work, but with the diamond lane my commute is much easier. The 40+ mpg is nice too. Some people think we've gone green since we own two hybrid cars, but the RV and my Vette kind of cancel that out .

Life is either a daring adventure or nothing ~ Helen Keller

[bloody_trauma 2]

those glasses on yer face dont appear to be very efficent

Fly it like you stole it

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those glasses on yer face dont appear to be very efficent

those glasses on my face are Personal Protective Equipment... and they are fugly... but they do the job they are suppose to do.

Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife...

[SkydiverTilt 0]

Anyone who pays $24,000 to save $500 in gas every year deserves one. Just think, in 48 years the damn thing pays for itself!!!

Geez...I LOVE MARKETING!!!!!!!! Just proves that you can sell ANYTHING to ANYONE!!!

When you are at a party stop asking people "What do you do?" ask them..."What do you do for fun?"

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You said Hummer.....

What if they crossed a Hummer with a Chrysler.... would it be called a Cummer?

Or, a Dodge with a Hummer could be a Dummer?

Or, a Saturn with a Hummer would give you Summer?

Or, Plymouth with a Hummer could be a Plummer?

Or, a Honda with a Hummer is a HHumm...er....nevermind.

I'm here all night folks!

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Evelyn 0]

I paid only $15,000 for my used Prius (20,00 miles). It was worth it for me to have the diamond lane stickers so I can use the car pool lane for my commute. My husband paid $28,000 for his 2006 Prius, but he gets a $3,000 rebate on taxes.

Life is either a daring adventure or nothing ~ Helen Keller

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Anyone who pays $24,000 to save $500 in gas every year deserves one. Just think, in 48 years the damn thing pays for itself!!!

Fist I'm going to Caveat this with the fact that I don't in fact own a Hybrid Vehicle.

for the sake of argument I'll pick the Honda Civic and lets compare three of the Honda Civics:

Civic Hybrid @ $22,600 MSRP
Civic Sedan (LX trim, i.e. middle) @ $17,760 MSRP

and

the Civic Si Sedan @ $21,290 MSRP

by your arguement of saving $500/year the savings actually start to occur much sooner...

$22,600
-$17,760
$4,840


therefore after 9 years of ownership the car is more cost effective then the LX version car. And is more cost effective after 2 years then the Si... Now this does assume that the maintence costs are similar... which isn't exactly a safe arguement.

of course... I'd probably get the Si for the sportiness of it... or possibly the Sedan EX...

though I've actually decided that I'm not keen on actually buying a new car again.

of course I'm just arguing for arguements sake... that and to demonstrate that its not as simple an arguement as you've made it out to be.

Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife...

[Evelyn 0]

Wow, you've done your homework. I really don't care about gas milage, cost, etc. I just love being able to use the diamond lane, makes my commute much shorter.

Life is either a daring adventure or nothing ~ Helen Keller

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Wow, you've done your homework. I really don't care about gas milage, cost, etc. I just love being able to use the diamond lane, makes my commute much shorter.

Naw... Just looked up that stuff in the last 10 minutes (crunched the numbers then and there) just trying to make the point that its not all marketing.

Like I said before... the logic for creating/using a hybrid vehicle is to improve the efficiency of the process. You can't completely elminate energy use (think perpetual motion machine) but if you can improve the process by 25% awesome.

There are certainly other issuse involved... we have lighter cars today because they used a lot of plastics but many of the plastics that are used cost more to manufacture/recycle/dispose of but the cost savings over the life of the vehicle balances out the upfront and tail end costs.

Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife...

[bloody_trauma 2]

well youve got that, and in states like texas and cali you get a tax break for PZEV's and you get to use the special lanes like she was saying for free.

Fly it like you stole it

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Fist I'm going to Caveat this with the fact that I don't in fact own a Hybrid Vehicle.

for the sake of argument I'll pick the Honda Civic and lets compare three of the Honda Civics:

Civic Hybrid @ $22,600 MSRP
Civic Sedan (LX trim, i.e. middle) @ $17,760 MSRP

and

the Civic Si Sedan @ $21,290 MSRP

by your arguement of saving $500/year the savings actually start to occur much sooner...

$22,600
-$17,760
$4,840

Nice work Scott! I'm still having more fun with my Si than I would with a hybrid though. I have the coupe model and I did not pay MSRP. No one should pay MSRP.

I'm all for the fuel efficiency and I believe we're headed in that direction. The vehicle cost is what is keeping consumers away.

Chris

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