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Ok the Creative Zen just got a knockout punch - iPhone is announced

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Apple announces the iPhone and jeezus I hate the iPod but I want one of these!!

Steve Jobs keynote at CES MacWorld. Scroll through and you'll see what I'm talking about.

WOW! :| damn I hate Apple and their DRM madness!! But I want one of these!


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I had CES it's not from CES or maybe it is... I'm confused.



"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them."

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Let me guess...........it'll require you to use Iphone service. :D No thanks..........If I want a damn phone I'll use a phone.



If by "iPhone Service", you mean Cingular, then yes.
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it'll require you to use Iphone service.



Cingular.
Well atleast it wasn’t Spirnt. Then it would have been completely worthless.

Have to wait till June and see how it all pans out. The devise looks good and is a logical marriage of technology.

I am just afraid of what Apple will do to make sure you can only make calls "Their way". Also the usual iPod limitations will certainly apply. I wonder if you will have to use iTunes to update you telephone address book now too?

Sprint and verizon will have to partner with other to remain competitive. I will be curious to see what offerings they have.

Creative has been suspiciously NOT announcing any new Players at CES thus far. There has been some speculation that they were waiting for Apple to make their announcement before unveiling their new stuff. Time to play wait and see.

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And when you can look your current location in realtime via Google Maps, think what it will do to the portable/mobile GPS industry.
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I am just afraid of what Apple will do to make sure you can only make calls "Their way". Also the usual iPod limitations will certainly apply. I wonder if you will have to use iTunes to update you telephone address book now too?



Yes iTunes is very much in use on this device. It's the interface to update everything. So the DRM and the basic Apple BS still apply. Still it's a groovy looking stylish phone/video/music player. With 8gs being the max it'll spend a lot of time interfacing with iTunes.

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Creative has been suspiciously NOT announcing any new Players at CES thus far. There has been some speculation that they were waiting for Apple to make their announcement before unveiling their new stuff. Time to play wait and see.



I myself have been waiting along time for Apple to announce their next move in the iPod / iPhone dept. Never expected them to combine the devices. Good and not so good an idea.

Tis why I've waited soooo long to decide what mp3 player to purchase. Now I seem to be waiting more. :ph34r:



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And when you can look your current location in realtime via Google Maps, think what it will do to the portable/mobile GPS industry.



and when you are looking at where you are... Think of how many others can look at where you are as well...

There is some technology that makes us more and more like rats in a lab.

I for one hate the fact that our society has become so dependent on cell phones and various other electronic devices. Why do I have to be available every second of every day to every one?

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and when you are looking at where you are... Think of how many others can look at where you are as well...



"Can you find me now? ...Good."

Others can look at your location only if you transmit your coordinates to them. Operating a GPS receiver does not automatically do that.
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Nothing like being at CES, and having the coolest tech announcement happen 750 miles north.



Go to macworld next year for iphone2minishufflevideopodvoip. Apple will most likely release 5 variations of this phone over the next 5 years. It will not be worth it to be an early adopter when you can get a dozen cell phones that already have 3G broadband (I get XM radio on my phone right now, yes streaming via Cingular) and have access to MP3 music without having to use iTunes DRM services.

I'm just not impressed by the Apple iPhone. I'm more impressed by the external 3d video card for laptops thou.
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it'll require you to use Iphone service.



Cingular.



I was just about to switch to Cingular, but in that article it says they've somehow re-merged with AT&T? Anyone know what's up with that? I'd choose some shitty service pre-pay phone company before ever going back to shitty service from AT&T.

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it'll require you to use Iphone service.



Cingular.



I was just about to switch to Cingular, but in that article it says they've somehow re-merged with AT&T? Anyone know what's up with that? I'd choose some shitty service pre-pay phone company before ever going back to shitty service from AT&T.

Blues,
Dave



Read the first paragraph under "History":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cingular
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it'll require you to use Iphone service.



Cingular.



I was just about to switch to Cingular, but in that article it says they've somehow re-merged with AT&T? Anyone know what's up with that? I'd choose some shitty service pre-pay phone company before ever going back to shitty service from AT&T.

Blues,
Dave



Read the first paragraph under "History":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cingular



Well that sucks. Clicking through the links to other major carriers, it appears all have their drawbacks.

Blues,
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(drink Mountain Dew)

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I for one hate the fact that our society has become so dependent on cell phones and various other electronic devices. Why do I have to be available every second of every day to every one?




You don't....it's called a power button. Use it every once and a while.

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Let me guess...........it'll require you to use Iphone service. :D No thanks..........If I want a damn phone I'll use a phone.



If by "iPhone Service", you mean Cingular, then yes.



That really crumbles my cookie. GSM in the states isn't that good, and there is no "real" 3G like the CDMA carriers like Verizon or Sprint could offer. So, all the "iPod" features like video etc, aren't going to be conveniently available to that part of the target market that would eat it up...
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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You don't....it's called a power button. Use it every once and a while.



I wish it were that simple... Then it is constant questions of why the phone was turned off... Why weren't you available... blah blah blah

It is amazing how many people take offense to saying something like "I had my phone off for a little peace and quiet and did not want to be bothered."

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That really crumbles my cookie. GSM in the states isn't that good, and there is no "real" 3G like the CDMA carriers like Verizon or Sprint could offer. So, all the "iPod" features like video etc, aren't going to be conveniently available to that part of the target market that would eat it up...



My theory: EDGE was chosen initially because GSM is what is used in Europe. I'll bet there will be an EVDO version announced before the end of the year.
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That really crumbles my cookie. GSM in the states isn't that good, and there is no "real" 3G like the CDMA carriers like Verizon or Sprint could offer. So, all the "iPod" features like video etc, aren't going to be conveniently available to that part of the target market that would eat it up...



Cingular now offers HSPDA/UMTS...which is truly a 3G network. and you are right EDGE/GSM blows chunks. BUT we have HSPDA/UMTS in our market here...and supposedly it is in 100+markets per cingular. Just an option. One problem is the expense involved is rather large for a 3G phone from Cingular.


BUT I can NOT wait till this iPhone is released. SOOOO want one.

Marc
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Let me guess...........it'll require you to use Iphone service. :D No thanks..........If I want a damn phone I'll use a phone.



If by "iPhone Service", you mean Cingular, then yes.



That really crumbles my cookie. GSM in the states isn't that good, and there is no "real" 3G like the CDMA carriers like Verizon or Sprint could offer. So, all the "iPod" features like video etc, aren't going to be conveniently available to that part of the target market that would eat it up...



I use Cingular and get broadband via the UMTS network which blows away the EDGE network. I watch the ABC7 news on the train on the way to work, read the sun-times and then listen to XM radio or some MP3's off my 1 gig storage drive.
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Let me guess...........it'll require you to use Iphone service. :D No thanks..........If I want a damn phone I'll use a phone.



If by "iPhone Service", you mean Cingular, then yes.



That really crumbles my cookie. GSM in the states isn't that good, and there is no "real" 3G like the CDMA carriers like Verizon or Sprint could offer. So, all the "iPod" features like video etc, aren't going to be conveniently available to that part of the target market that would eat it up...



I use Cingular and get broadband via the UMTS network which blows away the EDGE network. I watch the ABC7 news on the train on the way to work, read the sun-times and then listen to XM radio or some MP3's off my 1 gig storage drive.



That's great, but the iPhone is an EDGE device, no UMTS. GSM still have the capacity CDMA does...
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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