bloody_trauma 2 #1 January 13, 2007 Ask me a question, keep it reasonable now, no equations or things of that sort. logic question and medical question on he nursing side are welcomedFly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wes. 0 #2 January 13, 2007 (whuffo)what do you do if your parachute doesnt open(/whuffo)Falling from the top floor your lungs fill like parachutes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #3 January 13, 2007 Promtly ask your instructor to hold you like a baby until landingFly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #4 January 13, 2007 If the answer is 42, what is the question? www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #5 January 13, 2007 Forty-two! Is that all you've got to show for seven and a half million years' work? I checked it very thoroughly, and that quite definitely is the answer. I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is. so i geuss the the answer is "what is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything" and that would be according to deep thoughtFly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #6 January 13, 2007 This is a two part question.... Firstly, what is an AN-2 and secondly why do dzdotcommers think its usefull as a witty response when an OP asks what something other than an AN-2 is?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #7 January 13, 2007 Okay, heres a serious one for you. What is the physiological explanation why when pressure is applied to areas such as the Hypoglossal (from under chin/neck) and Brachial Plexus Clavicle Notch you can gain control of a subject. I know it works and it has something to do with nerves, but what is the reason? Is it simple pain compliance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #8 January 13, 2007 AN-2 Posts the AN-2 is a type of aircraft that is also amazingly a source of much entertainment to DZ.commers, it is of russian engineering i believe to answer the second... this is DZ.com... would you expect anything less?Fly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #9 January 13, 2007 What is the Brachial Plexus? The brachial plexus is a network of nerves. It conducts signals fom the spine to the arm and hand. These signals cause the arm and hand muscles to move. It also proivdes feeling for the hand and arm. The brachial plexus is a nerve network derived from the spinal cord that controls the movement and sensation of the hnd and arm. Brachial plexus palsy occurs secondary to birth-related injury (Erb's Palsy, Obstetric Palsy), high speed trauma o results frm tumor, radiation and as far as the hypoglossal goes it mostly controls the movement and sensation of the tongue, but has involvment with CN XII carrying motor and sensory nerve fibers from the C1 and C2 spinal nerves to the hyoid muscles (in the neck) and the dura in the posterior canial fosa so when you apply pressure to those bundles of nerves it sends a message to the brain that those nerves are in pain or distress it overwhlems the area of the body that the nerves control and actually creates pain thereFly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #10 January 13, 2007 You lost me with words Do the restraint/control techniques work through simple pain compliance or does it actually effect the motor ability of the body when compressed? When I refer to brachial plexus im talking clavical. Applying pressure through the soft tissue between collarbone and neck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #11 January 13, 2007 both pain and if applied correctly mouscle and motor control, hell if you kick someone hard enough in the nuts theyll pass outFly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #12 January 13, 2007 Quoteboth pain and if applied correctly mouscle and motor control, hell if you kick someone hard enough in the nuts theyll pass out True! Is there any long term implications of someone being restrained in this manner? Is it likely to cause damage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #13 January 13, 2007 actually damage to these nerves is quite common and ogften requires surgery to repair Most adult injuries to the brachial plexus occur as a result f significant trauma such as during a motor vehicle accident. Motorcycle and all-terrain vehicles are most commonly involved although automobile accidents can also cause the injury. As with infant injuries, the head and neck are forced away from the shoulder and arm, thus stretching the nerves of the brachial plexus and reulting in tearing, rupture and avulsion if the force is great enough. Injury can also occur in adults as th result of inflammation (Parsonage- Turner Syndrome, or brachial neuritis), tumor, radiation and other causes. so yeah pressing hard enough on one of those area could cause damageFly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #14 January 13, 2007 NEXT!Fly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #15 January 13, 2007 My father sufferd from severe Trigeminal neuralgia which eventually put him into a coma from which he never woke up. Question, is the pain from this neuralgia really so bad that it can shut you down permanently. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #16 January 13, 2007 When will science be able to grow me a new leg? (*wise-crack answer encouraged here, I don't want anyone to shut-themselves-silent-for-the-sake-of-being-PC)So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wes. 0 #17 January 13, 2007 QuotePromtly ask your instructor to hold you like a baby until landing i fort u were suppose to track over the swoop pond and go head down so u can dive into itFalling from the top floor your lungs fill like parachutes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #18 January 13, 2007 Quote My father sufferd from severe Trigeminal neuralgia which eventually put him into a coma from which he never woke up. Question, is the pain from this neuralgia really so bad that it can shut you down permanently. My mother has been suffering from Trigeminal Neuralgia for many years and a couple brain surgeries have not fixed it. I have done some studying on it, it is universally considered to be one of the most painful afflictions known to adult men and women and the suicide rate amongst TN patients is high I have not learned of anyone being put into a coma by it - but that does not mean it is not possible. I suffer from CNS (http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/central_pain/central_pain.htm) as a by-product of a very large spinal tumor and it is quite debilitating. Have not slept in 3 days, pain meds are useless and I am envious of the dead today - wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy, it sux. Some good info on TN here: http://www.tna-support.org/ -Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #19 January 13, 2007 oh yes, neurology is an extremely complicated field of medicine studied constantly. something like the condition you mention can definitely shut someone down, when your nerves are out of whack its like a dominoe effect on the rest of your nerves. the brain senses pain in the nerves and then can actually manifest it. and i dont know about when you be grown a new leg but if stem cell research ever comes through for us then there is a real possibility of that happening. and that also goes with what i was saying about nerves, as im sure youve experienced phantom pains associated with the body thinking it still has a leg. BTW im adding a disclaimer here that although i am a medical professional individuals should seek medical care from thier healthcare providerFly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobie331 0 #20 January 13, 2007 QuoteOkay, heres a serious one for you. What is the physiological explanation why when pressure is applied to areas such as the Hypoglossal (from under chin/neck) and Brachial Plexus Clavicle Notch you can gain control of a subject. I know it works and it has something to do with nerves, but what is the reason? Is it simple pain compliance? Is it pressure to the brachial plexus that allows you subdue the person or pressure to the carotid sinus? Pressure on the CS with cause a drop in heart rate and blood pressure. It's a gift, I don't try to explain it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #21 January 13, 2007 it wluod tkae a sbusatntail aoumnt of psrsrue and it wolud tkee a bit of tmie to afecft a prseon in taht way, not to mneiotn taht you hvae two ctaroid atrereisFly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #22 January 13, 2007 Right after they figure out how to increase penis size www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobie331 0 #23 January 13, 2007 Quoteit wluod tkae a sbusatntail aoumnt of psrsrue and it wolud tkee a bit of tmie to afecft a prseon in taht way, not to mneiotn taht you hvae two ctaroid atrereis But if it's just a matter of pain, wouldn't it then depend on each individual whether or not they can be subdued? Different levels of pain tolerance. I seem to remember a civil case against police officers several years ago when a person they were attempting to subdue died. The blame was placed on them applying to much pressure to the CS and the persons heart rate and BP dropping to critical levels. Either way, I agree that it isn't like the movies where someone simply grabs you in that area and you drop like a rock. It's a gift, I don't try to explain it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloody_trauma 2 #24 January 13, 2007 you have to consult the penis fairy for that one.Fly it like you stole it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #25 January 13, 2007 QuoteRight after they figure out how to increase penis size Well, they have the penis pump...maybe there's a "stump pump" too... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
