Genital Herpes

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about 1 in 4 americans has genital herpes, or HSV2. HSV1 is commonly known as "cold sores" and has way less stigma attached but is still herpes.

About 90% of women have some form of HPV, aka genital warts.

just some useless facts to chew on.

jason

Most people don't even get tested for herpes too. I know at my university when someone gets tested for stuff, they get a pap smear, gonorrhea and chylmidia (sp?). You have to specifically ask for a herpes blood test to get tested, same thing with the HIV test on campus.

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Maybe i'm a bitch, but i would never have sex with someone that had herpes. Protection or not, i wouldn't risk it.

The last I checked, approximately one in four American women and one in five American men have genital herpes. And I think it's something like 80% of them who don't know they have it. Regular testing is the only way I know I'm not one of them. If you've had sex with one guy, there's about a 20% chance you've had sex with someone with herpes, and that number increases with each additional partner you've had.

Blues,
Dave

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You have to specifically ask for a herpes blood test to get tested, same thing with the HIV test on campus.

and even then, to determine type I vs. type II you have to get a "western blot" which is some type specific serogenic test. That's not something normally offered and something one would have to specifically request. That tells you if it happens to be genital or oral. Funny that overall it is the same thing but to some it makes all the difference.

Hard to say whether I'd rather have my badge on my face for all to see, or down there, where my whole life, i've been trying to get more people to see.

jason

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You have to specifically ask for a herpes blood test to get tested, same thing with the HIV test on campus.

and even then, to determine type I vs. type II you have to get a "western blot" which is some type specific serogenic test. That's not something normally offered and something one would have to specifically request. That tells you if it happens to be genital or oral.

I don't think that's true anymore...I'm pretty sure IgM and IgG tests are standard now when someone requests an HSV test. Also, though HSV-1 is usually oral and HSV-2 is usually genital, either can be contracted at the other location (usually through oral sex).

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

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This quote from the comercial is the one that stuck in my mind:
"up to 70% of people who had herpes got it from their partner when their partner had no signs or symptoms of an outbreak."

That meant that 30 percent of people who got genital herpes got it from a partner who DID have signs and symptoms.

"So I was with this gal and I said to myself, 'I wonder what that open, festering sore is. It mustn't be too bad. I'll hit that, anyway."

I mean, WTF? About 1 in 3 wit herpes got it when there WERE signs or symptoms. That's gross.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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That was wrong on so many levels....but funny, so it works out.

When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never tried before

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to everyone who wrote on this thread. thanks for scaring the absolute shit out of me, i always go for regular checkups but i thought that you didnt need a test for herpes, the weeping sores were the dead giveaway and i, like probably everyone else isnt offered one of these tests. i can only fucking hope that the UK is nowhere near as bad as the US.

goddamn it, partyting most of the week, think i'll keep it in my boxers away from all the skanky bitches now.

"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading."

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"So I was with this gal and I said to myself, 'I wonder what that open, festering sore is. It mustn't be too bad. I'll hit that, anyway."

I mean, WTF? About 1 in 3 wit herpes got it when there WERE signs or symptoms. That's gross.

Type I can be transferred as type 2, orally. So if you start to feel a cold sore coming on.. dont go down there.

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You have to specifically ask for a herpes blood test to get tested, same thing with the HIV test on campus.

and even then, to determine type I vs. type II you have to get a "western blot" which is some type specific serogenic test. That's not something normally offered and something one would have to specifically request. That tells you if it happens to be genital or oral.

I don't think that's true anymore...I'm pretty sure IgM and IgG tests are standard now when someone requests an HSV test. Also, though HSV-1 is usually oral and HSV-2 is usually genital, either can be contracted at the other location (usually through oral sex).

Blues,
Dave

There is a blood test for HSV, and even one specific for HSV2. HOWEVER.... depending on the lab, it can be a pain in the ass to get the HSV 2 test done. But, not impossible. It might mean that you have to get your blood drawn a couple of time (cuz even if all the lab requisions are filled out correct and even if the nurse calls the lab and specifically tells them what we want....) the lab might do the nonspecific HSV antibody test, which is about useless - cuz almost everyone has been exposed to HSV 1. But... I'm hoping that by bugging the labs enough that they will catch a clue and just start running what is ordered.

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Maybe i'm a bitch, but i would never have sex with someone that had herpes. Protection or not, i wouldn't risk it.

Naw, not a bitch... I can respect that... I wouldn't either.

Comments like this remind me of this girl I overheard in a bar saying that having herpes was worse than having AIDS.

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Comments like this remind me of this girl I overheard in a bar saying that having herpes was worse than having AIDS.

no... having aids would be worse...

Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife...

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Comments like this remind me of this girl I overheard in a bar saying that having herpes was worse than having AIDS.

no... having aids would be worse...

Glad you understand that

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Type I can be transferred as type 2, orally. So if you start to feel a cold sore coming on.. dont go down there.

It can be *transferred* from partner to partner, either 1 or 2 but transferrence requires an open cut of some kind because it's transferred by present virus into bloodstream.

Let us use this example.
Partner A = cold sore (non-genital herpes)
Partner B = bad credit but no STD's

If partner A is granted permission to go down on partner B.... and partner B, in an attempt to attract the opposite sex, (or same sex - geez don't get on my case)... shaved the goodies and caused a slight nick on the skin (VERY COMMON), it is possible for partner A to give partner B HSV1. Initially it may appear as an infection down under (sorry dino) but the recurrances will generally happen orally. and vica versa... if the sweet uglies happen to have HSV2, and you decide to whisper sweet nothings up close and personal, yes, you could get it orally. BUT, commonly, the recurrances will appear down under.

i'm going to stop proclaiming to be some sort of expert right about now.

jason

edited to add:
HSV1 feels most at home at the base of the brain. That's its command center

HSV2 feels most at home at the base of the spine.

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Type I can be transferred as type 2, orally. So if you start to feel a cold sore coming on.. dont go down there.

It can be *transferred* from partner to partner, either 1 or 2 but transferrence requires an open cut of some kind because it's transferred by present virus into bloodstream.

Let us use this example.
Partner A = cold sore (non-genital herpes)
Partner B = bad credit but no STD's

If partner A is granted permission to go down on partner B.... and partner B, in an attempt to attract the opposite sex, (or same sex - geez don't get on my case)... shaved the goodies and caused a slight nick on the skin (VERY COMMON), it is possible for partner A to give partner B HSV1. Initially it may appear as an infection down under (sorry dino) but the recurrances will generally happen orally. and vica versa... if the sweet uglies happen to have HSV2, and you decide to whisper sweet nothings up close and personal, yes, you could get it orally. BUT, commonly, the recurrances will appear down under.

i'm going to stop proclaiming to be some sort of expert right about now.

jason

Can you tell me where you got this information from?

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Type I can be transferred as type 2, orally. So if you start to feel a cold sore coming on.. dont go down there.

It can be *transferred* from partner to partner, either 1 or 2 but transferrence requires an open cut of some kind because it's transferred by present virus into bloodstream.

Let us use this example.
Partner A = cold sore (non-genital herpes)
Partner B = bad credit but no STD's

If partner A is granted permission to go down on partner B.... and partner B, in an attempt to attract the opposite sex, (or same sex - geez don't get on my case)... shaved the goodies and caused a slight nick on the skin (VERY COMMON), it is possible for partner A to give partner B HSV1. Initially it may appear as an infection down under (sorry dino) but the recurrances will generally happen orally. and vica versa... if the sweet uglies happen to have HSV2, and you decide to whisper sweet nothings up close and personal, yes, you could get it orally. BUT, commonly, the recurrances will appear down under.

i'm going to stop proclaiming to be some sort of expert right about now.

jason

edited to add:
HSV1 feels most at home at the base of the brain. That's its command center

HSV2 feels most at home at the base of the spine.

I thought either type typically stayed near the place where it was initially contracted. I've also read that having one type significantly reduces the chances of getting that type elsewhere on the body, e.g. a girl who has oral HSV-1 is less likely to get genital HSV-1.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[kbordson 8]

Here

more research backed info (still maybe not 100% "right"... but still helpful)

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I'd do it for free just to scare the hell out of a couple old girlfriends!

Just to bring us back around to that original subject...I work in the entertainment industry too, on the "in front of the camera" side. You'd be surprised how much money one can make from a "Class A" network commercial. Once pay-per-play kicks in, well...let's just say a friend made enough off of doing a commercial like this to put one of his kids through college at USC.

Of course, he was already married, so he didn't really have to worry about some of the *other* problems that go along with this sort of ad being shown regularly during 'Friends,' 'ER' & "The Simpsons"... Not sure if I would be doing one, at this point in my life....

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the info I posted comes from research done about 8yrs ago. Mostl stuff on the internet. I don't remember the exact location but someone did post something a couple threads down with a good link.

jason

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I thought either type typically stayed near the place where it was initially contracted.

This may be the case - it's been some years. My understanding was that each strain had a "preferred" home and although the initial site of infection does not have to be specific to the normal type, recurring infections had a tendancy to appear in the region common to the type.

I do know that we aren't talking EXACT location as outbreaks can happen in a general area rather than exactly at the original site of infection.

jason

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You'd be surprised how much money one can make from a "Class A" network commercial. Once pay-per-play kicks in, well...let's just say a friend made enough off of doing a commercial like this to put one of his kids through college at USC.

I would do a commercial saying i have erectile dysfunction. I"m not worried about any prospective date worrying about that.

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Here

more research backed info (still maybe not 100% "right"... but still helpful)

Thanks for that link, but I still didn't see anywhere that it will go through your blood stream to infect another area.

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It can be *transferred* from partner to partner, either 1 or 2 but transferrence requires an open cut of some kind because it's transferred by present virus into bloodstream.

I think this is the part you are referring to. I have to take this back after reading it. I have not read that it needs to actually get into the bloodstream. What I have heard is that it is easier to transmit if there is a "open" pathway into the body - such as a cut or nick.

sorry about that - Jason