popsjumper 2 #26 January 16, 2007 Aw shit, Dave...just when I was starting to enjoy the misconceptions. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #27 January 16, 2007 That might be a good investment...I'm also considering those baby-proof knobs on the stove so if I bump it again it won't turn on. I'll make a run later this week and see what the local Home Depot or Lowe's has for me. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #28 January 16, 2007 QuoteThat might be a good investment...I'm also considering those baby-proof knobs on the stove so if I bump it again it won't turn on. I'll make a run later this week and see what the local Home Depot or Lowe's has for me. Ciels- Michele Please read the specifications on any CO detector you buy. Many of them are plug in only instead of battery powered. Unless you have a plug somewhere about head height, they won't be as effective. CO is LIGHTER than air. Secondly, most detectors you buy in the stores are not LOW LEVEL detectors. In fact, most won't sound any alarm untill they detect CO @70ppm for three hours. 70ppm is what is already considered a harmful level and it has to be present for three hours???? Anyway read the specs carefully and feel free to pm and or call if you have any other questions. Lastly, Kelly would you buy a photo printer/fax/scanner?? An explosive gas/CO detector is the same thing. Quality suffers when it is designed to do more than one thing. Of course it IS better than nothing. Jeff Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #29 January 16, 2007 If you decide you want a space heater (the detectors come first, obviously), I have a Bionaire space heater that has been great. It comes with a remote control unit and an "auto off" feature. I can run it all day in my office and it's still touchable at the end of the day. Be careful out there!TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnsisland 0 #30 January 16, 2007 Quote Why would a propane or natural gas leak cause symptoms of CO exposure and how would a CO detector warn someone of such a leak? In such cases, I believe it's the fuel itself that's most dangerous, not the byproducts of combustion. Blues, Dave Dave, I didn't say a gas leak would cause symptons of CO exposure. I am wondering if there was a CO leak, since I don't understand how nausea and dizzeness are caused by a gas leak (but they are symptons of CO exposure.) I would also suggest that everyone, in particular those with some sort of fossil fuel appliance, an attached garage, or those living in multi-family housing, to have a CO detector. Had a CO exposure myself, and might not be alive if I hadn't spent some of my dollars, while a student, and bought a CO detector. Just my two cents, JeffArch? I can arch just fine with my back to the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #31 January 16, 2007 QuoteQuote Why would a propane or natural gas leak cause symptoms of CO exposure and how would a CO detector warn someone of such a leak? In such cases, I believe it's the fuel itself that's most dangerous, not the byproducts of combustion. Dave, I didn't say a gas leak would cause symptons of CO exposure. I am wondering if there was a CO leak, since I don't understand how nausea and dizzeness are caused by a gas leak (but they are symptons of CO exposure.) I would also suggest that everyone, in particular those with some sort of fossil fuel appliance, an attached garage, or those living in multi-family housing, to have a CO detector. Had a CO exposure myself, and might not be alive if I hadn't spent some of my dollars, while a student, and bought a CO detector. Just my two cents, Jeff CO is a chemical asphyxiant...it binds up with blood so strongly that you don't absorb enough oxygen. Methane (natural gas) is a physical asphyxiant...it can displace air to the point that there isn't enough oxygen in the air one is breathing. The symptoms are very similar (oxygen deprivation), but a CO detector won't warn of the latter. Given that gas appliances involve combustion, a CO detector is a very good idea, but it's not enough by itself. I don't know if methane specific detectors are available to consumers, but I imagine a CGI is (combustible gas indicator). Alternately, an 02 detector might be able to warn of an oxygen deficient atmosphere (due to displacement by a gas leak). And cool beans on surviving a CO overexposure. If I remember correctly, CO's affinity for blood is about 200 times that of oxygen, making it a very potent asphyxiant at low concentrations. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ifall 0 #32 January 16, 2007 So how did you do on your test? Animals are great indicators of problems, if you choose to pay attention to what they are trying to tell you. My mom is diabetic and they had a Flat Coat Retriever that could sense when her blood sugar got too low. He would sit at her feet and just stare at her and if she moved he would follow her. He knew not to go upstairs and if she would go to the second floor he would wait at the bottom of the steps for her. You were really lucky as everybody has said. Glad things turned out well for you. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites