pop 0 #1 January 27, 2007 Wow....I am so glad this made the headline news, because I HAD NO IDEA!!!! http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2007-01-26T152656Z_01_N26231484_RTRUKOC_0_US-DIET-EXERCISE.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C5-healthNews-27 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #2 January 27, 2007 Someone got paid for that too (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #3 January 27, 2007 regardless of the final conclusion the study looks as if it was fairly well organized. and there was some good information particularly wrt the core temperature and insulin levels in the participants.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #4 January 27, 2007 Actually, there's some interesting stuff in there, debunking some other theories that seem to hold a lot of weight (no pun intended) - in particular the idea that building muscle mass helps your body burn fat faster, or the idea that if you just diet you lose muscle mass instead of fat. Those are pretty widely held beliefs that this study seems to be challenging a bit. Of course, the benefits of exercise go way beyond weight loss and I'd never consider a weight loss program that didn't include both."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #5 January 28, 2007 QuoteActually, there's some interesting stuff in there, debunking some other theories that seem to hold a lot of weight (no pun intended) - in particular the idea that building muscle mass helps your body burn fat faster, or the idea that if you just diet you lose muscle mass instead of fat. Those are pretty widely held beliefs that this study seems to be challenging a bit. .I have not met even one reasonably educated person that believes thatYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #6 January 28, 2007 QuoteActually, there's some interesting stuff in there, debunking some other theories that seem to hold a lot of weight (no pun intended) - in particular the idea that building muscle mass helps your body burn fat faster, I think you might be reaching a conclusion that wasn't there...and the wording on this has me questioning it's validity any way: QuoteRavussin has published other studies that also dispute the idea that exercise builds muscle that helps people lose weight. "If anything, highly trained people are highly efficient, so they burn fewer calories at rest," Ravussin said. 'Lose weight'. Lose pounds? Lose fat? Lose muscle? The term is used too loosely for it to be regarded as scientific...in my opinion. -That could be due to the reporter paraphrasing, and not the study...however it was a poor way to try to express findings. Personally I think it's garbage any how. Show me a body builder that eats less than 3000 calories per day to keep their muscles. I may not have ever been a body builder, but I was in excellent shape for a period of time...and these concepts were definitely not true when I was staying in top form. The body builders I knew ate like there was no tomorrow; they had to. Otherwise they would have lost weight.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #7 January 28, 2007 QuoteQuote Personally I think it's garbage any how. Show me a body builder that eats less than 3000 calories per day to keep their muscles. I may not have ever been a body builder, but I was in excellent shape for a period of time...and these concepts were definitely not true when I was staying in top form. The body builders I knew ate like there was no tomorrow; they had to. Otherwise they would have lost weight. it's not the calories that build muscle is protein and amino acids, the high calorie intake is used to facilitate the work outs and metabolism, much more muscle requires more nergy to work, ergo more calories needed to facilitate such work. but you are right the article reads very poorlyYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pop 0 #8 January 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteActually, there's some interesting stuff in there, debunking some other theories that seem to hold a lot of weight (no pun intended) - in particular the idea that building muscle mass helps your body burn fat faster, I think you might be reaching a conclusion that wasn't there...and the wording on this has me questioning it's validity any way: QuoteRavussin has published other studies that also dispute the idea that exercise builds muscle that helps people lose weight. "If anything, highly trained people are highly efficient, so they burn fewer calories at rest," Ravussin said. 'Lose weight'. Lose pounds? Lose fat? Lose muscle? The term is used too loosely for it to be regarded as scientific...in my opinion. -That could be due to the reporter paraphrasing, and not the study...however it was a poor way to try to express findings. Personally I think it's garbage any how. Show me a body builder that eats less than 3000 calories per day to keep their muscles. I may not have ever been a body builder, but I was in excellent shape for a period of time...and these concepts were definitely not true when I was staying in top form. The body builders I knew ate like there was no tomorrow; they had to. Otherwise they would have lost weight. I agree, only if the calories taken in are useful calories. Empty calories like alcohol deter the progress, but nevertheless if you want to add weight (muscle), you have to eat like crazy...personal experience7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
pop 0 #8 January 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteActually, there's some interesting stuff in there, debunking some other theories that seem to hold a lot of weight (no pun intended) - in particular the idea that building muscle mass helps your body burn fat faster, I think you might be reaching a conclusion that wasn't there...and the wording on this has me questioning it's validity any way: QuoteRavussin has published other studies that also dispute the idea that exercise builds muscle that helps people lose weight. "If anything, highly trained people are highly efficient, so they burn fewer calories at rest," Ravussin said. 'Lose weight'. Lose pounds? Lose fat? Lose muscle? The term is used too loosely for it to be regarded as scientific...in my opinion. -That could be due to the reporter paraphrasing, and not the study...however it was a poor way to try to express findings. Personally I think it's garbage any how. Show me a body builder that eats less than 3000 calories per day to keep their muscles. I may not have ever been a body builder, but I was in excellent shape for a period of time...and these concepts were definitely not true when I was staying in top form. The body builders I knew ate like there was no tomorrow; they had to. Otherwise they would have lost weight. I agree, only if the calories taken in are useful calories. Empty calories like alcohol deter the progress, but nevertheless if you want to add weight (muscle), you have to eat like crazy...personal experience7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites