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Well gordon is going to have one hell of a time getting to the front, he is starting 42nd. His car failed a post race inspection after he won one of the shoot outs.;)



I said it lots and I'll say it again. JEFF GORDON is, and always will be a cheater!!! Finally someone caught his ass.



He's a cheater? Then Dale Earnhardt was one too, and they have about the same number of wins.

Somebody simply put the bolts on the wrong way and it was unintentional, much unlike the way Waltrip's situation came about.

I also don't see Gordon's crew chief getting fined and the team getting docked points, like 4 or 5 other teams did.

And by the way, where you start does not matter much on the superspeedways like Daytona or Talladega as much as it does on smaller tracks. I have seen guys come all the way from the back to the front a bunch of times.



I do seem to recall Jeffies little protege Jimmy getting caught last year and his crew chief missing the first 4 races because of.... oh yea.... cheating
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Well gordon is going to have one hell of a time getting to the front, he is starting 42nd. His car failed a post race inspection after he won one of the shoot outs.;)



I said it lots and I'll say it again. JEFF GORDON is, and always will be a cheater!!! Finally someone caught his ass.



He's a cheater? Then Dale Earnhardt was one too, and they have about the same number of wins.

Somebody simply put the bolts on the wrong way and it was unintentional, much unlike the way Waltrip's situation came about.

I also don't see Gordon's crew chief getting fined and the team getting docked points, like 4 or 5 other teams did.

And by the way, where you start does not matter much on the superspeedways like Daytona or Talladega as much as it does on smaller tracks. I have seen guys come all the way from the back to the front a bunch of times.



I do seem to recall Jeffies little protege Jimmy getting caught last year and his crew chief missing the first 4 races because of.... oh yea.... cheating



And he still won with a legit car.
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I can tell you all from experience that there are two kinds of racers. There are cheaters, and there are losers. ;)

Gordons not my favorite, but you can't count him out at any track, especially Daytona. Starting at the back can hurt, but usually doesn't. He is in a riskier position to get caught up in someone elses wreck for one thing. Another problem is if it goes a long stretch without a yellow. He can get caught up in a slow pack and end up lapped before he knows it. Not likely, but can happen.
I'd put my cash on the #20 car. Yeah, I know he's got an attitude, but he is a racer, not just a driver.

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I want either Matt Kenseth, Greg Biffle or Carl Edwards. Thay all drive for my moms boss now under the new Roush Fenway Racing. Chances are Ill be at next years 500, I wish I couldve gone this year though.
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As kingbunky said: restrictor plate races are a crap shoot.

It could be anybody, but yes, the stronger cars/teams are typically up front. That's why I voted for Tony in the poll, even though I'm not a Tony fan. Tony Stewart is without a doubt is the guy to beat this year. He & his team led by Greg Zipadelli are the best out there.

As simplyputsi said: never ever count Mark Martin out. That son bitch can drive.

Mark Martin has been my favorite since he had a big 0 in the win column of the Winston Cup/Nextel Cup series dating back to 1989. I would love to see him win some races this year on a part time schedule.

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Nooooooooo! Aaaah poor Tony......[:/]


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as ned flanders would say, dang diddly ding dong crap.

one of them racin' deals i guess. kurt was apologizing, but it didn't look like his fault. he maybe could have gotten his foot out of it a bit sooner, but that's about all he could have done.

oh well.
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piss me off. they'll throw a flag for a dixie cup on the track, but 15 cars doing cartwheels doesn't qualify. as much as i like nascar, that was a total crap call on their part. oh well, that's show biz. it's turning into a cross between iroc and wrestling. [unsure]
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I wanted to see Tony Stewart win. Was unable to watch the race - what happened to "Pretty Boy" Jeff Gordon?

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I agree. Martin deserved to win the 500 more than almost anyone. They should've thrown the yellow flag as soon as the wreck started...not waited 5 minutes then throw it as soon as Martin and Harvic crossed.



Hell no, that wreck had no bearing on that last head to head between harvick and martin. Bravo for not throwing the yellow and giving it to martin like that. Harvick ran on him, and beat him fiar and square.

I don't like the outcome, but to toss the yellow would have just been fucking weak.

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I wanted to see Tony Stewart win. Was unable to watch the race - what happened to "Pretty Boy" Jeff Gordon?



He managed to avoid being taken out in a couple of wrecks and get across the finish line in one piece, I think he was 10th or 11th, not sure. Not a bad comeback after dropping to the mid 30's late in the race.

And oh yeah, I fucking hate Harvick. Fucking little prick. When I saw that Martin had made it to the front, I was pulling for him to win as he had not won this race in 22 tries. I don't like Stewart either and was like "aw too bad" when he wiped out, but damn so many of the top drivers got taken out too - both Busch brothers, DE jr, Denny Hamlin, Jimmy Johnson, etc... Gordon was one of the lucky ones, but he sure got banged around pretty good.
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I agree. Martin deserved to win the 500 more than almost anyone. They should've thrown the yellow flag as soon as the wreck started...not waited 5 minutes then throw it as soon as Martin and Harvic crossed.



Hell no, that wreck had no bearing on that last head to head between harvick and martin. Bravo for not throwing the yellow and giving it to martin like that. Harvick ran on him, and beat him fiar and square.

I don't like the outcome, but to toss the yellow would have just been fucking weak.



Yeah, but I wish NASCAR would be consistent for all races. What about Talladega last fall when Brian Vickers wiped out Dale Jr and Jimmy Johnson going into turn 3 on the final lap? NASCAR used the sensor system to find out exactly what place each driver was in when the yellow flag went down, and not where they placed at the finish line.

But then, you know NASCAR, always changing the damn rules. :|
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