MrBrant 0 #26 November 22, 2006 Quote I sometimes try to not quarter the slider completely with the logic that it will come down faster.. does that make any sense? I am of the opinion that quartering the slider is for jerks. I've never done it, and have always been happy with my openings. with flaking the insides of the canopy, not quartering the slider, only doing 2-3 loose tail rolls, and making all non-locking stows really loose (if you hold the bag up for more than a few seconds, they just fall out) I've always had my Pilot (and now my Samurai) open within 500 feet or less. YMMV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icevideot 0 #27 November 22, 2006 Quote and making all non-locking stows really loose (if you hold the bag up for more than a few seconds, they just fall out) Okay, so who here can explain what line dump is? You could also pack it like a BASE rig and remove the slider and speed it up even more I would love to video it but I open high enough to like comfortable, staged deployments. To each his own."... this ain't a Nerf world." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBrant 0 #28 November 22, 2006 as long as the bag stays closed until line stretch, (hence the locking stows being tight), and the lines are neat so they don't hitch around the container flaps, I'm happy. once the lines are free of the container, I wouldn't care if they all came out at once. (again, as long as the locking stows held on, keeping the bag closed until linestretch) Think of how the lines are stowed on your reserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icevideot 0 #29 November 22, 2006 Seems like a strong pilot chute could snatch the bag out of the container and leave stows that loose laying in the container. I defer to Mr Booth's article on pilot chutes when he mentioned stows. As for my reserve, I could hang my freebag up for hours and my lines would not "just fall out". I am not saying your way is wrong, it just goes against some things I have been told. After all, we are folding a car cover into a napsack and throwing it into a hurricane.... How much control do we have and how much of it depends on the engineering and design of the equipment? I am glad you found a method you are happy with. Peace"... this ain't a Nerf world." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,439 #30 November 22, 2006 Quote After all, we are folding a car cover into a napsack and throwing it into a hurricane.... True Dat. Very profund statement.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagicGuy 0 #31 November 23, 2006 Doug.. My tail wraps come undone I'd say 40% of the time. My canopy still opens slow as hell. It's not a Pilot, it's a Triathlon, but I don't think the tail is where the slow openings come from. I quarter my slider as well. How do you do your S-Fold to get the canopy into the bag? Have you talked to any of the other UCONN guys/gals about their openings? I wanna watch you pack this weekend (minus stuffing the canopy into the bag because I've seen you do that haha) and see how similar your technique is to mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #32 November 23, 2006 Quote ...and making all non-locking stows really loose (if you hold the bag up for more than a few seconds, they just fall out) I think this is a really, really bad idea. Partial line dump during deployment is not a good thing. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBrant 0 #33 November 23, 2006 could you elaborate on why? (sorry I don't mean to hijack this thread - but it is still deployment related) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #34 November 23, 2006 Quote could you elaborate on why? Quote Sure, because there is value in orderly deployment of lines, and having them haphazardly fall out of the stows during deployment is not conducive to a clean deployment. I am pretty sure that NO canopy/rig manufacturer would recommend what you are recommending. Please do not confuse success over the span of a few hundred jumps with a statistically valid sample. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icevideot 0 #35 November 23, 2006 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=118754;search_string=line%20dump;#118754 This thread explains it fairly well. I hadn't seen darkwing's relpy when I wrote this."... this ain't a Nerf world." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
