Which rigs have most people died or been injured in?

[Honeybee 0]

Does anyone know which rigs had been used when most fatalities have occured, and which ones have the best ratings for safety?

Whether it be the Container, the Main or the Reserve...Which ones do you want and which one's do you want to stay away from?

[waltappel 1]

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Does anyone know which rigs had been used when most fatalities have occured, and which ones have the best ratings for safety?

Whether it be the Container, the Main or the Reserve...Which ones do you want and which one's do you want to stay away from?

I don't like where I think this is heading. By and large, rigs don't kill people--people kill themselves by misuse of their rigs.

It doesn't matter what the rig is. Poor judgement or lack of awareness kills far more people than rigs. In recent years a huge number of our injuries and fatalities were under canopies functioning exactly as designed.

I don't mean this in a mean-spirited way, but anyone who asks that question needs to rethink whether they should be jumping because, IMO, it indicates they are looking for a good luck charm.

Walt

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

Your kidding right?

Bobbi

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[SkydiveStMarys 0]

I was going to say the same thing...but what do I know....its a sad fact that it usually human error when someone goes in...not all the time, but most.

Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[Misternatural 0]

Thats a risky question and I'm sure some of the more advanced people will be along here shortly to properly guide you in the ways of the jumper, grass hopper.

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D S #3.1415

[waltappel 1]

Everyone knows that all you have to do is get an AAD on your rig and you'll never die.

Walt

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I was going to say the same thing...but what do I know....its a sad fact that it usually human error when someone goes in...not all the time, but most.

Bobbi

What, you guys have never heard of the Uncle Fester Sport le Mort System ? It's lovingly stitched together with Black Widow silk, features a throwaway hackey sack (no pilot chute attached), and welded together release rings. Best of all, the Widowmaker Reserve is packed into the patented Slave Bag. So far no one has jumped it and lived. On top of all that, it's expensive.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[Misternatural 0]

and an RSL

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D S #3.1415

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

Hell, if your gonna do all that, why not just give the rig to someone else and let them jump it??

Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[ExAFO 0]

Plenty have died whilst piloting the AN-2.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

Cat Butt!!

Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[Honeybee 0]

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Does anyone know which rigs had been used when most fatalities have occured, and which ones have the best ratings for safety?

Whether it be the Container, the Main or the Reserve...Which ones do you want and which one's do you want to stay away from?

I don't like where I think this is heading. By and large, rigs don't kill people--people kill themselves by misuse of their rigs.

It doesn't matter what the rig is. Poor judgement or lack of awareness kills far more people than rigs. In recent years a huge number of our injuries and fatalities were under canopies functioning exactly as designed.

I don't mean this in a mean-spirited way, but anyone who asks that question needs to rethink whether they should be jumping because, IMO, it indicates they are looking for a good luck charm.

Walt

I'm new to skydiving so I'm trying to find out if (like cars) some are more troublesome than others. I imagine there are some rigs that are more complicated and others that are more straightforward. I would like to know if there are some out there that people have noticed have the habit of catching on the main, not releasing the main and other such snags. It's an honest question from someone who wants to know if in addition to or inspite of jumpers error or lack thereof are there rigs that are less safe than others. Simple question. Jumpers with more experience than this newbie are welcome and urged to offer some insight.

[Misternatural 0]

Ixnay alice......I'm TRYING to be HELPFUL here, Shhheeese, Bang Zoom to the moon alice, to the moon!

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D S #3.1415

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[wildcard451 0]

I haerd quite a few people went in wearing skydiving rigs. Damnedest thing.

[shermanator 4]

i think this is a good.. Go talk to your instructors' thread.

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[ExAFO 0]

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Cat Butt!!

Bobbi

The Cat Butt rig has a worse record than the AN-2!

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

Went in?? Whadda ya mean?? In the bar?? In the store?? In the house?

Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

Its stinky too!!

Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[PhreeZone 20]

Best answer you will get on these forums:

Go talk to your instructors at your DZ. Thy can explain the differences between different rigs (For the most part they are cosmetic differences only). They can also explain all the advantages or disadantages of each.

As a student you are full of questions and while these forums are a great place to get some things answered until you are able to filter the noise from the forum you should focus mainly on asking your instructors questions since they are the ones helping you personally and some of the "advice" on here might be 180 degrees from what they what they want you to learn.

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[SkydiveStMarys 0]

As usual....so serious.....

Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[ExAFO 0]

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As usual....so serious.....

Bobbi

A Wombat container with a Marmoset 222 main and a Lemur 300 reserve would be good, but be sure to get a FXC 3.141 AAD.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

XYZ, PDQ!!!!!!


Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

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Does anyone know which rigs had been used when most fatalities have occured, and which ones have the best ratings for safety?

Rigs: More fatalities have occurred under popular ones because there are more out there. When equipment and skydiving change we sometimes learn new things, like when smaller spectra lines became increasingly popular and a couple people went in with main-reserve entanglements when their suspension lines snagged on main container grommets. Multiple brands of rigs were affected. All modern rigs are safe, although limited number of manufacturers sell containers which take small mains and reasonable sized reserves .

Main: Smaller faster popular ones kill more people, because the leading cause of death under canopy is pilot error. The same mistake under a student canopy might get you dusty, a broken leg under a lightly tapered canopy at a pound per square foot, and dead under an elliptical at 1.6 pounds per square foot. The availability of higher performance canopies doesn't make Sabres (originally placarded at 1.1 pounds per square foot maximum) and Stilettos (1.3, 500 jumps required) any slower than they were ten years ago.

Reserves: Older ones. Unreinforced reserves were sufficient when people limited freefall speeds to 120 MPH with wing loadings no higher than a pound per square foot. Spanwise reinforcing tapes are needed when you have a premature at high altitudes or freeflying, CYPRES fire at higher than stable freefall speeds, higher wing loading, or insufficient time to slow down from freefly speeds prior to deploying. PD reserves have always had span-wise reinforcing tapes. Precision added them with the R-max series. The new Smart has span-wise tapes. PISA added them to the Tempo around 2001 IIRC. Lots of us like the way PD reserves land too.

[Honeybee 0]

Thank you for your answer. Finally someone who took the question seriously

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