steveorino 7 #1 May 2, 2007 Who made that scenario, a whuffo script writer? steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 May 2, 2007 Eric Haney is supposed to be the consultant on the show...how did that slip by him? Am I gonna get smacked upside the head for not calling him Sergeant Major Haney?Kinda hope not... John and Scott, do I get a pass on this one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 May 2, 2007 The stupid prop target designator was hilarious as well. Predators can lase their own targets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #4 May 2, 2007 Damn, I totally forgot to watch the show last night. I only knew there was a side story at home on the base where the dude thinks his wife is having an affair and cleans out the savings in the bank account (last week). It's a pretty good show as far as the action and storylines go in the covert ops world. But of course, we've come to expect TV to screw up any skydiving or HALO scenes. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #5 May 2, 2007 Quote Who made that scenario, a whuffo script writer? Same guy that wrote for point break I imagine. How could his pin "Break" and cause a main mal after he just checked it before he left? I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #6 May 2, 2007 Quote Who made that scenario, a whuffo script writer? stupid was whoever wrote the altitude chamber scene. so very bad. I liked the show up to that and the HALO scene. now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #7 May 2, 2007 Quote Quote Who made that scenario, a whuffo script writer? stupid was whoever wrote the altitude chamber scene. so very bad. I liked the show up to that and the HALO scene. now? Yeah - lemme 'splain summ'n . . . CPR is given until a more qualified medical person can take over. They just didn't TRY hard enough. They only gave it like what, 3 minutes and then pronounced him dead and walked away? WTF?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #8 May 2, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Who made that scenario, a whuffo script writer? stupid was whoever wrote the altitude chamber scene. so very bad. I liked the show up to that and the HALO scene. now? Yeah - lemme 'splain summ'n . . . CPR is given until a more qualified medical person can take over. They just didn't TRY hard enough. They only gave it like what, 3 minutes and then pronounced him dead and walked away? WTF? In my 25 years working in/around/on altitude chambers, I never saw anything like that! Plus, where was the inside observer? I bet I have worked over 100 people going unconcious on me, and never did I see that....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 May 2, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Who made that scenario, a whuffo script writer? stupid was whoever wrote the altitude chamber scene. so very bad. I liked the show up to that and the HALO scene. now? Yeah - lemme 'splain summ'n . . . CPR is given until a more qualified medical person can take over. They just didn't TRY hard enough. They only gave it like what, 3 minutes and then pronounced him dead and walked away? WTF? In my 25 years working in/around/on altitude chambers, I never saw anything like that! Plus, where was the inside observer? I bet I have worked over 100 people going unconcious on me, and never did I see that....... It would have been more believable if somethong in the de/re pressurization mech went wrong and blew a piece of metal throgh his brain or something . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #10 May 2, 2007 We did have a student die in one of our chambers out at Edwards years back. But... he was a civilian about 100lbs overweight and a massive heart attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #11 May 2, 2007 Quote Who made that scenario, a whuffo script writer? AHMM, yes, a wuffo did write the script. However, let me say that if they had run what they originally had in the script it would of looked even more unbelievable. All I can say is that they didn't impliment all of the changes that I recommended to them but they did try to use most of them. Due to the time constraints and budget of TV, some of the recommendations I made in the 2 scenes didn't make it to film. There was a whole inside the aircraft sequence of events that they wrote and I re-wrote for them that didn't make it as well as parts of the chamber scene. Some of the changes I recommended they didn't impliment for whatever reason. The whole frozen pin thing made me slap my head when I heard that line. One thing I have learned from this is that we as skydivers/military/rock climbers/scuba divers etc, will always be over critical of the way things are portrayed on TV and movies. The producers however do spend a good deal of time and effort to make things as realistic as possible, lord knows I spent a lot of time with them working on this, as being technically accurate is one of their goals. They do however still lean towards dramatic flare and supporting the story line and if a little bit of technical accuracy has to be sacrificed to achieve that, they do what they have to do. Compared to what they originally had written,what you saw last night turned out 100% better. Just be glad they actually opted to shoot the freefall scene instead of hanging guys from wires over a green screen."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #12 May 2, 2007 Scott, just for the record, no criticism is aimed you. We all know that hollywood does crazy things to extreme sports in TV/Movies. I guess a plain old main malfunction wouldn't be as scary as nothing out. (frozen pin?) So glad Jonas could swoop down to save him. My biggest pet peave was the flailing the dude did when he couldn't get the main out. He looked more like a AFF 1st jump student than a Special Forces guy. I remember watching "Cliffhanger" years ago with my rock climbing buddy. We almost got kicked out when we threw popcorn at the screen when Stallone was free climbing in big old boots -- using almost every dynamic move known to exist. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #13 May 2, 2007 QuoteScott, just for the record, no criticism is aimed you. None taken. I gave them the most technically accurate information and scenarios as you could get. However, as those who have done these things before, we know that it can also be very boring and not visusally exciting. If they would have done everyting as I had laid it out it would of been longer than they had time for and no where near as exciting. Lets face it, the average watcher isn't going to know any better and in order to keep the story line moving and the watcher interested, TV/movies sometimes make those boring things exciting. For example, the chamber scene was written way longer than what was shown in the original script. After I looked at it and made some corrections and changes it was as long or slightly shorter than the original and without the fake bells,whistles and flashing sirens they originally wanted( I am not exagerrating about the bells,whistles part). The bottom line of that scene is that they wanted to show the chamber,hypoxia and one guy had to die so Jonas could fill in for him and the story could continue.They had exactly the amount of time you saw last night to show all of that. There is another drawback to TV vs movies. On TV shows they work on what I call a compressed and excellerated time line. The HALO scene is a good example. We see a 130 take off and the next scene they are at 30k feet. Likewise, the in aircraft scene was originally written longer and had more dialouge and actions in the aircraft than what was shown last night. The original freefall scene was entirely unbelievable as was much of the dialogue( like the frozen pins comment). However, they need to explain things to the average viewer that they understand which is why they didn't use the dialogue/explanation I suggested. Perhaps if this had been a movie and they had more time it might have been a bit more detailed and spent more time developing those scenes but I am guessing it would be just a little bit more. Overall, the whole experience was fantastic and I had a good time :-)"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #14 May 2, 2007 I like that prog', it's almost as good as "Ultimate Force" (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
divnswoop 0 #15 May 2, 2007 Quote He looked more like a AFF 1st jump student than a Special Forces guy. I don't know.......I have a bunch of jumps with Special Forces and.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #16 May 3, 2007 Anybody got a torrent link to that? I'd like to see it. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #17 May 3, 2007 What I like is that they explicitly mentioned using a CASA 212 for the jump, then they were in a C-130. Makes a certain amount of sense, since the 212 has a ceiling of 26K, but still.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #18 May 3, 2007 The CASA was mentioned for the exfiltration, not infiltration. Edit: I just caught that. Looks like they got that line backasswards "It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnarok 0 #19 May 3, 2007 The Unit is a gay show about gay men doing gay things. I saw the scene by accident. What a joke. Makes Point Break look like Crosswinds........... Do not get me started on the idioit rescuing the kid either......... Never again on my TV........_________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #20 May 3, 2007 Quote The Unit is a gay show about gay men doing gay things. I saw the scene by accident. What a joke. Makes Point Break look like Crosswinds........... Do not get me started on the idioit rescuing the kid either......... Never again on my TV........ Dude, it is a TV show. It is suppose to entertain. As Scott said, reality is quite boring. I served in SF for three years and I imagine my every day life back then would make for a pretty boring show. But all that being said, we bow down to your expert knowledge about SF units, Delta in particular, and anything related to skydiving. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
