skip 0 #1 September 17, 2006 I’m hooking up my new canopy, which I’ve done before under the supervision of a rigger; however I have never installed toggles before. Looking at PD’s main owners manual I see that they suggest an overhand knot, thread it though the grommet, and then thread the toggle through the steering line loop. What do you do with the excess steering line, leave it hanging as depicted in the manual? My last canopy had no access line hanging out. Thanks np Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinseivLP2 0 #2 September 17, 2006 Bring it to a rigger and have them fingertrap it for you. It is easy to do, you can do it yourself but someone should show you how. The excess is inserted into the line above the knot. I never fingertrap mine until I jump it make sure the brake setting is where I want it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skip 0 #3 September 17, 2006 Awesome - thanks. I figured as much just wanted to make sure it was ok to go ahead and set them up, pack it up, and jump it, before the finger trapping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #4 September 18, 2006 That PD manual illustrates the correct procedure for tying Dacron lines to toggles. The basic goal is to fill the hole in the grommet, then tie a knot too large and too ugly to accidentally slip back through that hole. However, there is a different technique for tying thinner (microline, HMA, Spectra, Technora, Vectran, etc.) lines to toggles. Since you would need a dozen passes to create enough bulk to fill the grommet hole. For skinny lines, tie a binder knot near the mark, creating a one inch loop. Push that loop through the toggle - from the Velcro side - then loop it around the bottom of the toggle and pull it tight. This creates a lark's head knot around the toggle. The "skinny line" technique is illustrated in the PD reserve manual. To finish the job, ask your local rigger to finger-trap the tail out of sight. Finger-trapping is optional. BAck in the good old days, we used to do hundreds of jumps with extra Dacron steering line trailing behind our toggles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 September 18, 2006 QuoteFinger-trapping is optional. BAck in the good old days, we used to do hundreds of jumps with extra Dacron steering line trailing behind our toggles. You also didn't have kill line sliders with lines trailing to wrap up with the excess. I've seen that happen before. The jumper didn't chop it, just came in about 1/4-1/2 brakes with no flare and PLFed. Quotetie a binder knot near the mark, creating a one inch loop. Push that loop through the toggle - from the Velcro side - then loop it around the bottom of the toggle and pull it tight. This creates a lark's head knot around the toggle. I'm a bigger fan of finger trapping to get that loop, then tying the knot. Its cleaner and the finger trap doesn't tend to work its way out over a couple hundred jumps.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites