morten 0 #1 August 29, 2006 This is NOT a pro vs psycho thread, just a simple (?) question: Will I have to extend the bridle inside the bag if I want to psychopack instead of propack? It seems to me that there is a long way from the middle of the roll to the grommet in the bag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #2 August 29, 2006 You don't have to but it makes for a cleaner pack job, and easier managing of the topskin of the canopy. So yes, it's a good idea. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,483 #3 August 29, 2006 As Wendy stated; you don't have to. If you do your trifold (of thirds) right, the brdile attachment point can be closer to one side and you can just pull it towards the outside with each "roll." I met a guy at SkyFest who claimed the title of inventor of the psychopack (name escapes me). He said it's not supposed to be a tight roll, but three flat rolling folds. I'm not convinced it matters either way, but am receptive to feedback.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivegirl 0 #4 August 29, 2006 Beezy Shaw perhaps?Pink Mafia Sis #26 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,483 #5 August 29, 2006 WooHOOOOOOO. Now he's gonna be pissed and I'll owe him beer. Thanks, that was driving me nuts this morning since I wrote that. How hard can that be... Beezy. I mean really... pull your head outchyer butt, Bigun.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronaldo 0 #6 August 29, 2006 I used to psychopack a lot and I noticed that for larger canopies the extension really helps. On a larger canopy the bridle would have to run a long path from the center of the roll to the link thus making it very difficult to bag the canopy. For smaller canopies it is not so necessary (but helps). Be careful with the length of the extension specially if someday you (or someone else) PRO pack the canopy. An extension that is too long may wrap part of the tail when bagging, causing damage on opening. Safe skies RonaldoEngineering Law #5: The most vital dimension on any plan drawing stands the most chance of being omitted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beezyshaw 0 #7 August 29, 2006 Quote...the bridle would have to run a long path from the center of the roll to the link thus making it very difficult to bag the canopy... Actually, the way the pack method was designed, the bridle is not in the center of the roll; rather, it is pulled out to one side before the canopy is rolled (or, more correctly, folded). We used to use and recommend the extension, like you can see in these pictures, but it really seems unecessary after thousands and thousands of pack jobs without using it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronaldo 0 #8 August 29, 2006 During packing I had the impression that Icarus canopies present more slack near the bridle attachment point (maybe the ring is positioned in a slightly different area). It could be just me but I was never able to pull the bridle attachment as far as shown in the picture. Blue skies!Engineering Law #5: The most vital dimension on any plan drawing stands the most chance of being omitted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #9 August 30, 2006 QuoteQuote...the bridle would have to run a long path from the center of the roll to the link thus making it very difficult to bag the canopy... Actually, the way the pack method was designed, the bridle is not in the center of the roll; rather, it is pulled out to one side before the canopy is rolled (or, more correctly, folded). We used to use and recommend the extension, like you can see in these pictures, but it really seems unecessary after thousands and thousands of pack jobs without using it. Good....'cause I never "invested" in one of those extension thingies, and I'd HATE to be told I was doing it wrong...lol. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 August 30, 2006 QuoteGood....'cause I never "invested" in one of those extension thingies, and I'd HATE to be told I was doing it wrong...lol. I usually do what I call a psychotic trashpack...but it seems to work for me. The only cutaways I have had were when someone else packed my rig and they did it the normal pro pack way. I have one on my Samurai.... and use it... my other rig with the AXON.. I do not have one....and just pull the ring and bridle connector out to the side and pack... the Sam packs neater... but the result is the same.. an easier packjob and good openings on both canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morten 0 #11 September 4, 2006 Thanks for the replies - I'll see if it feels OK without the extension. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #12 September 5, 2006 Yup, I don't seem to have a problem on my canopy YMMV, I try to make sure my pilot chute is cocked first, then roll with the bridle to the side and always seem to have enough bridle. With your pilot chute cocked it's the kill line length not the bridle that's the issue, but obviously they're directly related, it still seems OK. I have thought I'd forgotten to cock my pilot chute on a pack or two so maybe that's me being careless pulling on the kill line while bagging, but if that's the case it's just a matter of being careful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites