skybytch 273 #1 August 19, 2006 Interesting, isn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #2 August 19, 2006 QuoteInteresting, isn't it? It looks suspiciously like a bent Skyhook to me.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerry81 10 #3 August 19, 2006 QuoteInteresting, isn't it? Indeed. Tell more... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdthomas 0 #4 August 19, 2006 care to fill us in on this? did this happen after use or did you find it duringa repack? PM me with details if you don't want to post. thats if you don't mind. I am very curious to find out the how and why before I repack any more skyhooks. Joewww.greenboxphotography.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linestretch 0 #5 August 19, 2006 ummmm, what's up with the red end of the tape? Why is the stitching ripped?....or am I seeing things? (I've never packed a skyhook so am illiterate about them)my pics & stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #6 August 19, 2006 Quote Ever seen this?Yes I have as a matter of fact. That is one of the reasons why there is a skyhook II.Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #7 August 19, 2006 Looks like the skyhook had problems releasing when the reserve was deployed after total malfunction. Mike: If there is a Skyhook II, what are the changes? If there is a problem with the skyhook I's that results in the damage in the pic, how does the skyhook II fix this? Will there be a recall on the skyhook I's to change them to II's? Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fields 0 #8 August 19, 2006 how was it attached to the bride? Was it one of the ones sew backwards and somehow not caught? PSB20031203. applied to Skyhooks shipped Oct 12 - Dec 1 2003. This skyhook says 2005, but is not a Skyhook II (not anodized blue), but it has red upper attachment like a skyhook II (the red upper attachment is red to help prevent the skyhook from being sew to the bride backwards. ) The skyhook II addendum is in the Skyhook packing instructions found at http://www.relativeworkshop.com/support_rigging.html How long after the Skyhook II was introduced (12/2003?), were skyhook 1's used. I've seen a 12/2004 micron that had a Skyhook 1. This one is stamped 2005. I guess I should be asking RWS, rather than thinking out loud here (or "not-thinking" out loud for that matter)."And the sky is blue and righteous in every direction" Survivor Chuck Palahniuk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #9 August 19, 2006 Go here and go to page 6 for the Skyhook II Addendum. To change the Skyhook I to a II there are retrofit top and bottom plastic inserts that can be put on any Skyhook I set up. They just slip on.Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #10 August 19, 2006 There are 3 types of the Skyhook: 1.Skyhook - Silver hook with top Lexan, 1" Ty.4 tape toward the bag with 4 bartacks & 3/4" Ty.3 tape with 2 bartacks. It was changed to 3 bartacks on the Ty.3. The CENTER of the hook was 8 feet from the bag & 5 feet from the end of the bridle. (Total 13') * The Red Lanyard was the OLD style with the black sewing. 2.Skyhook 2: White 1" Ty.4 tape with 4 bartacks & RED 3/4" Ty.3 tape with 3 bartacks, SILVER skyhook with top Lexan. The BIG change was: The CENTER of the hook was changed to 7 FEET from bag & 5 feet from the end of the bridle. (Total 12') It was marked with the no. 2 on the Ty.4. * The RED lanyard was improved to a stronger version, Red line with Yellow 301 stitches. * The Green attachment line was improved by sewing the Green line sleeve & the inner bungee cord together. * The old lable on flap 2A has no handtacking instructions. *** On both above methods the Safety handtacking was done by handtack the red lanyard to the free bag's bridle. 3.Skyhook 2 with same skyhook 2 info. BUT with the BLUE hook with top & bottom Lexans & a holes in the Lexans for the Safety handtacking. * The new lable on flap 2A show the handtacking method on the Blue hook Lexans. I never saw the hook in a bent position, does it was found after deployment ? or was attached backward ? or rigging was wrong ? Does the RED lanyard was damaged ? We found here the first Backward attached Skyhook & a Skyhook that was attached too close to the free bag. I did saw: Skyhook packed without handtacking !!! I did found Broken & Cracked Lexans on both type of the skyhook: Silver & Blue. I replaced the Lexans with new PETG covers I got from RWS. Yes, you might see on the market the "Old" skyhooks & the "New" skyhooks, RWS never recall the "Old" version. The only SB regarding the skyhook was PSB20031203. I would recommended to change all "Old" RED Lanyards with the NEW stronger RED lanyard (Yellow stitches) When you inspect a NEW skyhook or a used skyhook always do a general inspection of the whole items & system and also check: * Position on bridle. * Center of hook 7' from the free bag & 5' from end of bridle. * Green line. * 4 Bartacks on the WHITE 1" Ty.4 on bag side & 3 Bartacks on the RED 3/4" Ty.3 on p/c side. * Check the Lexans for cuts, cracks or broken edge and/or surface.[email] clean, no chips, no nicks & no deformation !!! * If you get a new White Spectra line with the closing pin check that the lanyard is 7" long from loop end to loop end before attached to the RSL lanyard. * Check the closing pin is free from nick & chips created by the end fitting of the reserve ripcord cable which have Sharp hole edges. Safe Rigging !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #11 August 19, 2006 QuoteI replaced the Lexans with new lexans I got from RWS. The new covers are not lexan they are PETG which eliminated the cracking problems of lexan.Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #12 August 19, 2006 Thanks for that. Safe rigging !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danne 0 #13 September 3, 2006 ***Bump!*** Ok, what is the story behind the photo? /D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdthomas 0 #14 September 3, 2006 bump one more time.. skybytch are you going to fill us in with more detail? Joewww.greenboxphotography.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #15 September 4, 2006 Quotehow was it attached to the bride? It's a Bridle. B-R-I-D-L-E. A bride is something you marry or gets married. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #16 September 4, 2006 This is the response that RWS sent to Eric Fradet (at the Federation Francais de Parachutisme). In conclusion, we should all be careful to hand tack (with red reserve sealing thread) the lanyard DEEP in the hook. From : Eric fradet Sent : August 31, 2006 2:15:46 PM To : Jacko , kevin hardwick , Hans "Ostermünchner" , guido , rigger rob rigger rob , paul applegate Subject : Fwd: RE: About the bent Skyhook | | | Inbox for your information. eric Fradet Note: forwarded message attached. From: Mark Procos To: "Eric fradet" Subject: RE: About the bent Skyhook Sent: August 31, 2006 1:52:18 PM HI Eric We have received the skyhook here at RWS and have done some tests. It takes about 150 lbs for the skyhook to bend if you place the red loop close to the end of the opening. What could have happened on this occasion was that the red loop slid down the hook and still held. The red loop will break at about 300+ Lbs. The skyhook worked as it should of in this case so we are not concerned. The replacement is easy and the benefits are greater than odd occasion when this will happen. We did this using our machine witch was difficult, we have sent the skyhook to a lab to get exact specs. Regards, Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
