1969912 0 #1 June 17, 2007 So I've been feeding a couple cats that showed up starving on my porch during a snowstorm. They live in a little house made from cardboard boxes on the porch. The female cat is totally wild, and won't even let me touch her. turns out she was also pregnant. The attached pic was taken through the entrance to the carboard house. The kittie's are really tiny - their heads are the size of a walnut. Mama seems to be feeding them. Does anyone know if it is bad to leave the pillow in there with all the placenta crap on it. I'm concerned that if I touch the kittens, the mama might abandon them. thanks "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 June 17, 2007 Quote The female cat is totally wild, and won't even let me touch her. turns out she was also pregnant. Ooh, there's a smartass comment needed here. Cocheese? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #3 June 17, 2007 No, i can't take anymore abuse! "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #4 June 17, 2007 QuoteSo I've been feeding a couple cats that showed up starving on my porch during a snowstorm. They live in a little house made from cardboard boxes on the porch. The female cat is totally wild, and won't even let me touch her. turns out she was also pregnant. The attached pic was taken through the entrance to the carboard house. The kittie's are really tiny - their heads are the size of a walnut. Mama seems to be feeding them. Does anyone know if it is bad to leave the pillow in there with all the placenta crap on it. I'm concerned that if I touch the kittens, the mama might abandon them. Try putting in a clean pillow. Mama will probably move them onto it herself then you can throw the other one away. thanksBe yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrabGrass 0 #5 June 17, 2007 That young you shouldn't touch the kittys...use a pitchfork...! ~ "Pack Fast, Pull Low... and Date Your Riggers WIFE!" ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #6 June 18, 2007 QuoteTry putting in a clean pillow. Mama will probably move them onto it herself then you can throw the other one away. It will be necessary to remove them from the pillow/box to put a new one in. How old do they have to be before I can pick them up? They were born Friday night sometime. Tahnk you "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #7 June 18, 2007 Quote Quote Try putting in a clean pillow. Mama will probably move them onto it herself then you can throw the other one away. It will be necessary to remove them from the pillow/box to put a new one in. How old do they have to be before I can pick them up? They were born Friday night sometime. Tahnk you Since they are wild kitties, I wouldn't handle them. Mom might abandon them. I was able to hold mine from birth as I needed to tie off wee umbilical cords. But mom is a domestic, inside cat. I think that pillow will be fine for now. Wild cats have had kittens in worse conditions. That was really nice of you to give her a place. Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kidd 0 #8 June 18, 2007 We just moved from Washington to Colorado and depending on where you are in the state you can check on cat odoption centers that can take the kittens and find them homes. They'll also help you with the the best recipes for preparation,..... I mean recommendations for care until they are old enough. Ask a local non-puppy mill type of pet store about PAWS or look on the internet for their info. I'm not sure what areas they cover in Washington. By the way,....we get more sunshine than you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #9 June 18, 2007 I put another pillow on the floor next to the cathouse. After a couple days, I will put the pillow in the "living room" part of the house (it has three ground floor rooms (cardboard boxes) and an upstairs.) If sh doesn't move the kittens in there, I will wait until they are out running around, and then exchange the bedroom pillow. thanks "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #10 June 18, 2007 Momma cat won't abandon them if you touch them so changing the pillow is no problem but, quite honestly, is probably not needed. Gotta watch handling young kittens. As soon as they are born and dry they are looking for someone or something to scratch..and they have VERY sharp little needles in each paw! (Think Gremlins after midnight) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #11 June 18, 2007 The problem is that I'm in Pullman. Students from WSU are always abandoning cats at the end of the schoolyear, so the shelters are constantly full. Somehow, I'll find homes for them. Because mama is totally feral, no one will take her "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #12 June 18, 2007 Quote Quote The female cat is totally wild, and won't even let me touch her. turns out she was also pregnant. Ooh, there's a smartass comment needed here. Cocheese? You rang? Ok I'll see what i can do. hmmm. Smart ass comment:Yea don't touch wild pussy or you'll get blamed for the pregnancy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #13 June 18, 2007 Quote Quote Quote The female cat is totally wild, and won't even let me touch her. turns out she was also pregnant. Ooh, there's a smartass comment needed here. Cocheese? You rang? Ok I'll see what i can do. hmmm. Smart ass comment:Yea don't touch wild pussy or you'll get blamed for the pregnancy. Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #14 June 18, 2007 You mean poor homeless white-trash pussy? "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zing 2 #15 June 18, 2007 You'd be doing that momma cat and yourself a big favor if you could get it and her babies down to the animal shelter. There's a chance the kittens will get adopted out, the momma could get spayed, hence no more babies to overpopulate your neighborhood ... and you can bring her back to your place where she'll likely stay if there's food, water and shelter on your porch ... and you get cheap mice and rat removal services. Might cost you $50 to $100 dollars, but you won't end up like it's gotten around my place. My neighborhhood is overrun with feral cats now. Animal control is basically catching and euthanizing them as fast as they can, and are barely keeping up with the cats' reproduction rates. I've got two indoor cats and, apparently, they, and me, have seen the animal control folks out doing their job. Both my cats run and hide in the closet when the animal control truck stops and people in uniforms with loop-sticks and cages get out. Hate to see it, but around here the situation is so out of control on cats, and dogs, that there is no other choice.Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #16 June 18, 2007 Zing, That's the general plan, but no (non-kill) shelter will accept the feral wildcat mama. When the kittens are old enough I'll try to find homes or a shelter for them. I may have to trap the mama later and have a vet sterilize her, assuming I can find a vet that will deal with a feral cat. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #17 June 18, 2007 Biggest problem with your plan is that unless you start getting the kittens used to people, they'll end up being feral too. Most folks aren't going to have the time and patience it takes to tame a feral animal. Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnarok 0 #18 June 18, 2007 I got three words for you: YOUTH IN ASIA._________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 1 #19 June 18, 2007 Quote I got three words for you: YOUTH IN ASIA. 5 words for you... save money... heel of bootSome people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #20 June 18, 2007 Quote The problem is that I'm in Pullman. Students from WSU are always abandoning cats at the end of the schoolyear, so the shelters are constantly full. Somehow, I'll find homes for them. Because mama is totally feral, no one will take her Please don't feed wild cats. I recently went to court with a neighbor over the diseased wild cats that he and his wife constantly fed. Both of my dogs were bitten when attacked by packs of these damn cats - none of which had any kind of shots. The mother, at least, should probably be trapped and euthanized. The kittens may be salvagable if you get them at the right time. I know they are cute, but they are not meant to be wild animals. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flygirl1 0 #21 June 18, 2007 The best bet for the kittens is to socialize them as soon as possible if they have any chance of becoming house pets. I would do a little research and find a rescue group in your area that will take in and raise feral kittens. If they are not socialized at a young enough age they will be extremely hard or in possible to tame and in another 6 months or so they will be having litters of there own and a vicious cycle will start. As for mom since she is too feral to be tamed you should look in to a program called Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR). Basically you can find a group to come in trap her, neuter her, give her all her shots and return her to her original location. Here is some links with more info. http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=cruelty_tnr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap-Neuter-Return Those kitties are lucky you were looking out for them. It's so sad any animal has to be stuck out in a snow storm starving Fly like a girl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 1 #22 June 18, 2007 Quote The best bet for the kittens is to socialize them as soon as possible if they have any chance of becoming house pets. I would do a little research and find a rescue group in your area that will take in and raise feral kittens. If they are not socialized at a young enough age they will be extremely hard or in possible to tame and in another 6 months or so they will be having litters of there own and a vicious cycle will start. As for mom since she is too feral to be tamed you should look in to a program called Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR). Basically you can find a group to come in trap her, neuter her, give her all her shots and return her to her original location. Here is some links with more info. http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=cruelty_tnr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap-Neuter-Return Those kitties are lucky you were looking out for them. It's so sad any animal has to be stuck out in a snow storm starving Ya know, I lived in Wisconsin for 4 years and I noticed a big difference in the homeless problem. Wisconsin didn't really have one, at least in my area. July- Homeless February- I dunnoSome people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #23 June 18, 2007 T-N-D Trap, neuter, decapitate! http://www.tnrrealitycheck.com/ -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 1 #24 June 18, 2007 Quote T-N-D Trap, neuter, decapitate! http://www.tnrrealitycheck.com/ in that order? Quote We simply ask that you do your homework so when a feral kitten or cat crosses your path, you will make an informed choice that does not result in putting the cat, wildlife, or humans at greater risk. That means make sure you kill it when you swerve to hit it.Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #25 June 18, 2007 Quote Quote T-N-D Trap, neuter, decapitate! http://www.tnrrealitycheck.com/ in that order? I'll leave that up to you. All I know is after those fuckers bit my dog it took everything I had not to go out back with my shotgun and a couple boxes of shells. As it turns out - baiting, trapping, carefully transporting them, getting the proper legal paperwork, all with the dipshit neighbors watching from 10 feet away, knowing they were soon to face lethal injection, was much more satifying. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
