Rick 67 #26 June 21, 2007 Quote Quote Now send in the same amount of current and it becomes lethal. Its the voltage that stays the same, that is the one thing you can't change. You do change resistance (lower it) which cause current to go up (killing you). but you got the picture now. ----------------------------------------------------------- It is the current that kills ya I have been working with neon for years I have been hit by 15,000 volts from a neon transformer a few times it gives a kick but the amperage is really low (30ma) maybe that's why I enjoy Spence's electric ways so much I have been training for yearsYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #27 June 21, 2007 Ask this guy: http://tesladownunder.com/Tesla18Dalek10003Ft.jpg"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #28 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuote We have been doing electric 8-ways for years and have not killed anyone yet. 8-ways are too big. i prefer 4 or 5-ways and the occasional 3-way. my balls have never been big enough to do a 2-way, but i saw 1 guy do a really short solo once.8-way is just what we call it. It's really no fun till you get down to less than 4,depending where the outlet is located. If you want real fun do it in the wet grass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #29 June 21, 2007 Hey y'all,watch this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #30 June 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote We have been doing electric 8-ways for years and have not killed anyone yet. 8-ways are too big. i prefer 4 or 5-ways and the occasional 3-way. my balls have never been big enough to do a 2-way, but i saw 1 guy do a really short solo once. 8-way is just what we call it. It's really no fun till you get down to less than 4,depending where the outlet is located. If you want real fun do it in the wet grass. the best was closing your eyes and changing the point of contact to the forehead very cool (or maybe it was the moonshine)You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #31 June 21, 2007 We had a small electric fence to keep our dogs in the back yard. First day one male dog peed on the wire Next time he peed in the houseOur neighbors had 4-5 kids put up the warning sign ELECTRIC FENCE. Of course one had to try it, than two, than the whole family of seven holding hands. Shocking the things people do. The transformers are cheap avail at pet/box stores, souldn't hurt anyone (Don't get the livestock size). Having someone pee on the bare aluminan wire might be . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #32 June 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote We have been doing electric 8-ways for years and have not killed anyone yet. 8-ways are too big. i prefer 4 or 5-ways and the occasional 3-way. my balls have never been big enough to do a 2-way, but i saw 1 guy do a really short solo once. 8-way is just what we call it. It's really no fun till you get down to less than 4,depending where the outlet is located. If you want real fun do it in the wet grass. the best was closing your eyes and changing the point of contact to the forehead very cool (or maybe it was the moonshine) the forehead tap rocks. we had a name for it but i can't remember what it was. i've also seen a girl grab a guy's cock to complete the circuit a couple of times. they say its cool. i'll take their word for it. don't try kissing someone, the lips and tongue are horrible places to make a connection. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #33 June 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote We have been doing electric 8-ways for years and have not killed anyone yet. 8-ways are too big. i prefer 4 or 5-ways and the occasional 3-way. my balls have never been big enough to do a 2-way, but i saw 1 guy do a really short solo once. 8-way is just what we call it. It's really no fun till you get down to less than 4,depending where the outlet is located. If you want real fun do it in the wet grass. the best was closing your eyes and changing the point of contact to the forehead very cool (or maybe it was the moonshine) the forehead tap rocks. we had a name for it but i can't remember what it was. i've also seen a girl grab a guy's cock to complete the circuit a couple of times. they say its cool. i'll take their word for it. don't try kissing someone, the lips and tongue are horrible places to make a connection. I have seen a clit rub done on an 8 way. Skin to Skin.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #34 June 21, 2007 Quote the best was closing your eyes and changing the point of contact to the forehead very cool (or maybe it was the moonshine) the forehead tap rocks. we had a name for it but i can't remember what it was. i've also seen a girl grab a guy's cock to complete the circuit a couple of times. they say its cool. i'll take their word for it. don't try kissing someone, the lips and tongue are horrible places to make a connection. I have seen a clit rub done on an 8 way. Skin to Skin.I saw someone use his finger to close the connection on a girl's nipple. Not as cool as a clit rub, but the girl's reaction was fucking hilarious! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #35 June 21, 2007 Quote Quote the best was closing your eyes and changing the point of contact to the forehead very cool (or maybe it was the moonshine) the forehead tap rocks. we had a name for it but i can't remember what it was. i've also seen a girl grab a guy's cock to complete the circuit a couple of times. they say its cool. i'll take their word for it. don't try kissing someone, the lips and tongue are horrible places to make a connection. I have seen a clit rub done on an 8 way. Skin to Skin.I saw someone use his finger to close the connection on a girl's nipple. Not as cool as a clit rub, but the girl's reaction was fucking hilarious! at St. George 1 girl sounded like she was having the big "O" everytime we got the power going my wife was a little curious what the hell was going on behind the shed me"nothing dear just an electric 8-way"You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #36 June 21, 2007 QuoteYou won't die... "Mythbusters" did experiments on this scenario. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #37 June 21, 2007 Y'all crazy fuckers probably needed the electroshock therapy anyway.... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #38 June 21, 2007 >Do the electrons from the hot line flow from the line, through the >impurities in water, to the tub's drain creating a ground? First off, we're talking AC, so electrons go both ways (you probably knew that.) When you drop an electrical device into the water, the issue is that the water will contact any uninsulated part of the device (heating coils in the case of the hair dryer) and form a poor conductive path from the conductor to the nearest ground. If you're standing in a tub and you drop a hairdryer in, nothing will likely happen, since the path is poor (high resistivity) and you'll only see a little current; you will likely barely feel it. However, if you're lying in the water, and the dryer falls into the tub very near you, you will be a better path to the nearest ground than the water (since you're saltier than water.) Most of the current will follow your body to the ground. If the ground is on the other side of you, then you could get a significant current flow. The best grounds in a tub are generally the spigot and the showerhead, since they are metal and connected (usually) to copper piping. So worst case would be lying in a tub, device falls into the tub near your head, with your foot touching the spigot. _That_ might kill you. Note that most modern hairdryers and most bathrooms now have GFI interruptors so this is no longer much of an issue. >If so, isn't the path of least resistance a direct shot to the tub's copper? >Then why would there be any "shock" to the person in the tub? Water is generally a worse conductor than people, depending on how clean it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #39 June 21, 2007 >at St. George 1 girl sounded like she was having the big "O" everytime >we got the power going my wife was a little curious what the hell was going >on behind the shed . . . You know, guys, there are much safer ways to do this than by using 120VAC! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #40 June 21, 2007 Quote>at St. George 1 girl sounded like she was having the big "O" everytime >we got the power going my wife was a little curious what the hell was going >on behind the shed . . . You know, guys, there are much safer ways to do this than by using 120VAC! That was my thought, too.... "why not just get a TENS unit?"Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBrant 0 #41 June 22, 2007 Quote >at St. George 1 girl sounded like she was having the big "O" everytime >we got the power going my wife was a little curious what the hell was going >on behind the shed . . . You know, guys, there are much safer ways to do this than by using 120VAC! Yeah! you guys have 208, 240, 277, 480. This could get interesting! We lucky bastards also have 347 and 600. Now, 600 hurts like a MOTHERFUCKER! . stupid heater. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azdiver 0 #42 June 22, 2007 Quotedo a google search on "ohm's law" basically a small amount of amperage can kill you, but you have to have ALOT of voltage to drive the amperage through your body, without the voltage, the amps don't matter....wronglight travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azdiver 0 #43 June 22, 2007 Quote Well.. The main thing that might kill you with a hairdryer would be the current buildup in the tub water would conduct through you and effect your heart in a bad way. When all of those hair raising elements in the drier hit the water, it usually can conduct enough current to hurt you through the water Umm... despite popular belief water by itself will not conuct electricity very well, but tap water, and particullary tub water have a lot of electrolytes (aka ions) in it, thereby making the water more conductive. So, most modern hairdryers have GFI style plugs that look for a difference in the current going out to the current coming in. If the difference is great enough, it usually means that the device is shorting to ground, and it kicks off the circuit, thereby saving your dumb ass for another day of drying your hair in the tub. Did I answer the question? I'm pretty bad at explaining this sort of thing.your wrong as well which of the following is the best conducter a water b fire c platinum d gold e carbonlight travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #44 June 22, 2007 Quote The best grounds in a tub are generally the spigot and the showerhead, since they are metal and connected (usually) to copper piping. And the copper piping is bonded directly to the building ground rod and to the grid neutral at the first point of disconnect......OUCH! Quote Note that most modern hairdryers and most bathrooms now have GFI's interruptors so this is no longer much of an issue. There, fixed it for you.Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azdiver 0 #45 June 22, 2007 QuoteQuotedo a google search on "ohm's law" basically a small amount of amperage can kill you, but you have to have ALOT of voltage to drive the amperage through your body, without the voltage, the amps don't matter.... A little bit more to this... Ohms law says that voltage equals current times resistance. So a high resistance (say 500,000 ohms - about the resistance of dry skin) with 120 volts of electricy will be a paltry amount of current - not even enough to tingle. However, if you lower the resistance say 1000 ohms - the resistance of wet skin, the current now becomes deadly even though it is still less than an amp. I have a powerpoint of this that I cover with my physics class when we go over ohms law if you'd like me to send it to you.home electricity is ac not dc ohms deals with dc , ac will kill quicker because of the cycle, in a bathtub with a hairdryer you are becoming an inductor, basically you are becoming a secondary side of a transformer. in this you need to consider watts not ohms. for research to understand this look into eddie currents and inductorslight travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #46 June 22, 2007 Quotehome electricity is ac not dc ohms deals with dcHuh????????????????? Are you saying that if I make myself a conductor in and AC circuit that there is no resistance (ohms)? Are you also saying that I can not measure or calculate that resistance? When did ohms law become unusable for AC? What planet are you from?Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azdiver 0 #47 June 22, 2007 research itlight travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #48 June 22, 2007 Quoteresearch itFor which planet? Because here on earth you can use ohm's law for AC in the form E=I X Z.Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #49 June 22, 2007 QuoteQuotehome electricity is ac not dc ohms deals with dcHuh????????????????? Are you saying that if I make myself a conductor in and AC circuit that there is no resistance (ohms)? Are you also saying that I can not measure or calculate that resistance? When did ohms law become unusable for AC? What planet are you from? I think he's referring to reactance. When an AC circuit imposes an inductive load (usu a result of coils of wire), the current and voltage are not in phase, in which case you must use Inductive Reactance, (X[subscript]l) for the "resistance" caused by the inductive part of the load. Inductive reatance is also frequency dependent. X[sub]l=2(pi)(f)(L), where f=freq. in Hz, and L= inductance in Henry's. X[sub]L is in units of Ohms, so once you have a value, you just plug it into Ohms law as if it were a DC resistance, but ONLY if the frequency stays constant. If the freq changes, X[sub]L changes, and you need to recalculate it. However, I don't see how the water or the person could cause any meaningful inductive load, especially at the low frequency of 50/60 Hz. My opinion is that the DC resistance of the water/person is all that applies. EDITED to add mumbo jumbo stuff. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #50 June 22, 2007 What is an electric 8-way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
