warpedskydiver 0 #1 July 18, 2007 Hi I am wondering what email encryption programs are recommended, and what your personal opinions are. Free is good, so is inexpensive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 July 18, 2007 QuoteHi I am wondering what email encryption programs are recommended, and what your personal opinions are. Free is good, so is inexpensive. How secure do you need it to be? Who are you trying to keep secrets from; the government or your girl friend?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 July 18, 2007 I've always used PGP freeware. I can't find a copy of it anymore but here is their trial that converts to freeware after 30 days. http://www.pgp.com/downloads/desktoptrial2.phpYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #5 July 18, 2007 Thanks, I remember using PGP years ago...I will use that again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 July 18, 2007 It is actually none of your business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 July 18, 2007 Quote It is actually none of your business. Hehe . . . pretty good answer. Although a better one would have been to just to ignore it entirely. It is, however, a legitimate question as PGP is pretty well cracked by the NSA.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #8 July 18, 2007 If the NSA wants to read or get something...they willMake no bones about it, they get the keys to all the goodies. There are no secrets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 July 18, 2007 So . . . it's your girl friend then. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 July 18, 2007 no it is for Ming the merciless, he has battle plans for the solar system. All hail Ming! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #11 July 18, 2007 Quote no it is for Ming the merciless, he has battle plans for the solar system. All hail Ming! All Hail Ming!!!Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #12 July 18, 2007 Quote Quote no it is for Ming the merciless, he has battle plans for the solar system. All hail Ming! All Hail Ming!!! All hail Ming indeed!!!!!Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #13 July 18, 2007 Quote If the NSA wants to read or get something...they willMake no bones about it, they get the keys to all the goodies. There are no secrets Hard to crack a one time pad.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 891 #14 July 18, 2007 ah salam aleikum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #15 July 18, 2007 things have changed names and people have changed but here's a link http://www.gnupg.org/"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #17 July 18, 2007 Looks like if you want something to work on Windows this is your best option. http://www.gpg4win.org/download.html One time pads are still the strongest form of encryption but they have two weaknesses, the first is the out of band key distribuation method. This is just a royal pain and it sucks all around. The second is that the pads are peusdorandem at best, even the best computer programs to generate random numbers is not perfect and has some sort of pattern even if its really hard to find. Figure out that pattern and you can duplicate the pad. Second to impossible, but it is possible in theory at least.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #18 July 18, 2007 HAHA, this makes me laugh. I remember actually USING one time pads back when I first came in the military."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #19 July 18, 2007 Quote Quote It is actually none of your business. Hehe . . . pretty good answer. Although a better one would have been to just to ignore it entirely. It is, however, a legitimate question as PGP is pretty well cracked by the NSA. Wasn't there a period of time though where they couldn't crack it though. I remember hearing stories about someone going to jail etc...any truth to that?So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #20 July 18, 2007 Rumour has it that the NSA made PGP put a back door into their algorithms so that it could be cracked easily. Early version (I forget which ones) didn't have the backdoor and are therefore considered "superior". Certainly, at one time (I don't know if it is still true) exporting encryption algorthms outside the US was a felony. On topic though, I like Truecrypt for securing hardrives and the like. The encrypted files can be emailed just like any other attachment. It also supports double encryption with "plausible deniability" for super safe delivery if you need to go OTT. One time pads are theoretically unbreakable but the key generation and distribution is difficult. For most practical purposes, a well chosen book cypher works quite well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #21 July 19, 2007 QuoteWasn't there a period of time though where they couldn't crack it though. I remember hearing stories about someone going to jail etc...any truth to that? No. Zimmerman had all sorts of legal troubles with the Federal Government for a number of years, but he did not go to jail. PGP uses standard encryption algorithms and was widely published prior to the US government starting its case against Zimmerman. So, I'm skeptical of claims that backdoors were inserted. Anyone got a credible source? Go join the EFF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #22 July 19, 2007 QuoteThe second is that the pads are peusdorandem at best, even the best computer programs to generate random numbers is not perfect and has some sort of pattern even if its really hard to find. So use an external source of entropy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #23 July 19, 2007 QuoteLooks like if you want something to work on Windows this is your best option. http://www.gpg4win.org/download.html One time pads are still the strongest form of encryption but they have two weaknesses, the first is the out of band key distribuation method. This is just a royal pain and it sucks all around. The second is that the pads are peusdorandem at best, even the best computer programs to generate random numbers is not perfect and has some sort of pattern even if its really hard to find. Figure out that pattern and you can duplicate the pad. Second to impossible, but it is possible in theory at least. There's no need to use a pseudorandom generator at all. That's just a convenience of the computer age. Any public library has volumes and volumes full of non-repeating characters that can be used as a key, and a simple scrambling algorithm will defeat the brute force searches using digitized books.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #24 July 19, 2007 Finding true randomness is a whole lot harder then it seems. Drawing cards can have things like shuffling not truely random and can create patterns if you have a large enough sample set. Granted, in most instances where a 1 time pad would be needed you are not going to be encypting the works of Shakesphere so the odds of ever finding that pattern are zero. I had to work on creating some 1 time pads and then using them for a undergrad applied security class assignment. I never want to wish them on anyone. Way too slow for practical use. Give me good old PGP at 128 bits and an encrypt time of a few milliseconds any day. Zimmerman was never charged, just investigated and harrassed for years. It was a smart idea about just selling the source code as a book and shipping it overseas aas a workaround, too bad that one never made it to the courts. I would have loved to try to see how they would limit the export of a book as a munition. Network Associates eventually bought PGP and filed all the paperwork to make it legal to export it out of the US. Not long after dropping all that money into exporting it, they turned around and sold PGP back to Zimmerman. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vmsfreaky1 0 #25 July 19, 2007 Try hushmail.com its relatively cheap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
