wildcard451 0 #26 July 17, 2007 QuoteWhen the newly issued and clueless interns were released, things really came to a stop. It was a real challenge to stop them from killing patients. They look in their handbooks, review the symptoms and order every test known to mankind ...and 8 months later, they are legally free to set up private practice (but that's another issue). Don't bust us up too much. Some of us actually try to learn and turn out halfway decent. While you ARE able to go into practice after an intern year....no one is really going to take you seriously without a completion of residency these days. But yeah, now taking my new interns on board this month, I definitely wonder if I really was that stupid on my first month. God I hope not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #27 July 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteWhen the newly issued and clueless interns were released, things really came to a stop. It was a real challenge to stop them from killing patients. They look in their handbooks, review the symptoms and order every test known to mankind ...and 8 months later, they are legally free to set up private practice (but that's another issue). Don't bust us up too much. Some of us actually try to learn and turn out halfway decent. While you ARE able to go into practice after an intern year....no one is really going to take you seriously without a completion of residency these days. But yeah, now taking my new interns on board this month, I definitely wonder if I really was that stupid on my first month. God I hope not. I don't mean to bust you up. Everyone has to learn and you certainly had nothing to do with the conditions you were thrown into. My comments were more addressed to the ER zoo of patients hanging off the ceiling with the addition of herding interns. I attached myself to medical rounds twice a shift for four years (OK, my mom was a big cheese there). The residents used to humble the interns by tossing me questions they couldn't answer and say, "If an EMT knows this, why is it that you do not/" I sincerely agree with the residency comments. It's the ones that leave their internships with the very basics of medical practice and believe they can practice medicine, that burn me. Thing is, you see more and more of them in health "care" today, cause nobody cares about anything except who will work cheap.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaM 0 #28 July 17, 2007 Quote Characters aside, it's the doctors in some ER's (Ok, just one in particular) I would like to ban from existence. How in the f*%$ do you miss a tumor the size of a baseball next to a man's heart that comes in half-crippled from chest pain and send him home after a day telling him that he must have had indigestion or muscle pain?!? I haven't ever seriously wanted to sue a doctor until a few days ago... I hope your fiancee is doing better. Every time my advil or vicodin and/or nausea drugs wear off, I wonder "why haven't they done blood tests?" and wonder if they are missing something. ~ Lisa ~ Do you Rigminder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilDevil 2 #29 July 17, 2007 The hospitals are going the same way over here, and the UK well not even going there :-( BTW congrats on your engagement :-) Hope the lucky ladys better soon :-)``````````````````````````````````` " Cant keep a good woman down " Angels have wings, but devils can fly ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #30 July 17, 2007 QuoteI sincerely agree with the residency comments. It's the ones that leave their internships with the very basics of medical practice and believe they can practice medicine, that burn me. Thing is, you see more and more of them in health "care" today, cause nobody cares about anything except who will work cheap. Honestly, I don't know what percentage only do an intern year. I would guess that it's VERY low. Being residency trained and board certified is a VERY DESIRABLE thing. I'm sorry that you had a bad experience.... but wouldn't it have been better to actually try to be part of the system and fix it as opposed to just whining about how everything sucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFWAJG 4 #31 July 18, 2007 Quote Characters aside, it's the doctors in some ER's (Ok, just one in particular) I would like to ban from existence. Was it a doctor you saw, or a Physician's assistant. Too often, Er's have only one doc, and several PA's. Most of the time you don't even know you aren't being seen by a physician. And, although the PA has to have supervision, the supervision does not mean the doctor actually has to see the patient, but is responsible for what the PA does. PA's have as less training than a 3rd year medical student, yet carry around prescription pads and take total "care" of patients. (rant, rant, rant) I, too, am disgusted by healthcare today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #32 July 18, 2007 Thanks all...in the end, dad scheduled himself in to consult with another cardio doc for more testing...and then did happen to get in to see a competent doc earlier than he had expected -way the FREAK out in a tiny hospital in the middle of Bend, Oregon for Pete's sake- while he was on vacation and had another heart episode a couple of weeks ago. Hence the surgery he went through on Friday, and removal of that enormous cancerous tumor thank God. Prognosis is actually pretty good, and I am so thankful. If he would have listened to 'Dr. McDreamy' as the nurses were calling him in Valley Medical , I would have been burying my dad by next month. Apparently this doc thinks that an angiogram and EKG will reveal any problems related to chest pain. I can't believe he didn't ask for an X-ray or ultrasound...WTF, who doesn't at least take a chest X-ray for unexplained chest pain?? They didn't check his lungs...look for pneumonia...they didn't do anything but send him home with this condescending 'muscle pain or indigestion' BS. I wanted to rip their throats out for treating my dad like a 2 year old instead of a man that had been in medicine for over 40 years. I sure hope that doctor starts learning some skill instead of impressing nurses with his looks, which I didn't find all that remarkable anyhow. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #33 July 18, 2007 or simply moves on to investments or banking (no offense to any of those!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #34 July 18, 2007 Quote I sure hope that doctor starts learning some skill instead of impressing nurses with his looks, which I didn't find all that remarkable anyhow. there's nothing wrong with being damn fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #35 July 18, 2007 Quote Quote I sure hope that doctor starts learning some skill instead of impressing nurses with his looks, which I didn't find all that remarkable anyhow. there's nothing wrong with being damn fine I'm thinking that most women would agree that skill is more important...but wait a minute; are we still talking medicine or did this just move right into sex? ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilDevil 2 #36 July 18, 2007 Quote Quote Quote I sure hope that doctor starts learning some skill instead of impressing nurses with his looks, which I didn't find all that remarkable anyhow. there's nothing wrong with being damn fine I'm thinking that most women would agree that skill is more important...but wait a minute; are we still talking medicine or did this just move right into sex? Its nice to have something good to look at as well, wouldnt want to have to stick a bag over their head ``````````````````````````````````` " Cant keep a good woman down " Angels have wings, but devils can fly ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #37 July 18, 2007 Quote Quote Quote I sure hope that doctor starts learning some skill instead of impressing nurses with his looks, which I didn't find all that remarkable anyhow. there's nothing wrong with being damn fine I'm thinking that most women would agree that skill is more important...but wait a minute; are we still talking medicine or did this just move right into sex? I'll take both, thank you very much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #38 July 18, 2007 Quote Quote I sincerely agree with the residency comments. It's the ones that leave their internships with the very basics of medical practice and believe they can practice medicine, that burn me. Thing is, you see more and more of them in health "care" today, cause nobody cares about anything except who will work cheap. Honestly, I don't know what percentage only do an intern year. I would guess that it's VERY low. Being residency trained and board certified is a VERY DESIRABLE thing. I'm sorry that you had a bad experience.... but wouldn't it have been better to actually try to be part of the system and fix it as opposed to just whining about how everything sucks. Yeah, I suppose I should have. After I fixed the American health care system, I could have moved on and fixed the military-industrial complex and pentagon spending then streamlined the bureacracy at the Vatican. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #39 July 19, 2007 Worked in a county Er in Indy,In.(Wshard Hospital).Lady brought in for psych. consult,never searched by security.Next thing I hear is gunshots. Ended up shoting a medic and RT.Both servived,but talk abut scaring the shit out of everyone! Bry-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #40 July 19, 2007 Downtown Richmond, trauma call. Once the murder capital of the country. I wouldn't say it's gotten ALL that much better. Man, the stories we could tell....and the field medics could beat us by a mile. Damn I miss those days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #41 July 19, 2007 See your a MD,what do you do now.I was /is a Respiratory Therapist and Paramedic(Both ground & chopper). I been disabled to perform those since 2003 and man do I really miss it. Worked D.C.Pittsburgh,and Indianapolis,as well as rural In. Bryan-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #42 July 19, 2007 Quote See your a MD,what do you do now.I was /is a Respiratory Therapist and Paramedic(Both ground & chopper). I been disabled to perform those since 2003 and man do I really miss it. Worked D.C.Pittsburgh,and Indianapolis,as well as rural In. Bryan See, you know. That shit's wild. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #43 July 19, 2007 thank you! she came home last night as all testing was negative, cat scan, chest x-ray, stress test with angiogram, no real erason found as to what caused it, but everything checked out good. lots of follow-up appointments now with cardiologist and regular docs. thanks everyone. now for beers with the boys tonight.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #44 July 19, 2007 Glad it seems to be woring Ok for you 2 You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropdeded 0 #45 July 19, 2007 Quote thank you! she came home last night as all testing was negative, cat scan, chest x-ray, stress test with angiogram, no real erason found as to what caused it, but everything checked out good. lots of follow-up appointments now with cardiologist and regular docs. thanks everyone. now for beers with the boys tonight.... The process of getting seen in an ER sucks, but the end result here, Im glad for you guys------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
