AggieDave 6 #26 July 26, 2007 Quote The tour has become more about who can get by without being caught doping than it is who is actually winning. If you know anything about the history of the sport and the tour, then you'd realize that it has been like that since the beginning. This even included heavy drinking to help with saddle sores by some of the riders (while riding). Sort of like baseball and steroids, people always reference the great past of the sport and don't realize that in the late 19th century even to the early 20th century that the sport was riddled with heavy cocaine use. There has never been a "golden era" of a sport where some sort of drug use wasn't used to give an edge. A little bit of reading and research is truely an eye opener.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #27 July 26, 2007 QuoteThe front runners are doping. They need to just make it ok to dope, standardize it somehow, and tada no more problems. I agree. Personally, I believe all professional sports qualify as "spectacle" and athletes ought to be able to do anything they want to win at that level. What should it matter to other mere mortals how much time they are taking off of their living lives by using steroids? Live hard/Die fast. You will never see doping stop in athletics, so why even worry about it? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #28 July 26, 2007 QuoteIf you know anything about the history of the sport and the tour, then you'd realize that it has been like that since the beginning. This even included heavy drinking to help with saddle sores by some of the riders (while riding). Indeed. Tom Simpson died of dehydration on the slopes of the Ventoux in 1967 after taking a cocktail of amphetamines and brandy on the stage. Many current performance enhancing drugs have quite horrific side effects too, another reason not to relax the effort to stamp them out.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #29 July 26, 2007 Quote If you know anything about the history of the sport and the tour, then you'd realize that it has been like that since the beginning. Yes, cheating has been there from the beginning. Just google for "tour de france" and "cork"."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkfairy 0 #30 July 26, 2007 Quote lets see: doping in cycling roids in rasslin weed and dog fighting in football rapists and cheating by officials in basketball roids in baseball spying in F1 have I missed any??? again I'm reminded why I don't follow "professional" sports... At least skydiving is clean. Or... ?Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmanpilot 0 #31 July 26, 2007 QuoteAt least skydiving is clean. Or... Ha! Dope testing at a skydiving competition. BWAHAHAH!_________________________________________ -There's always free cheese in a mouse trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkfairy 0 #32 July 26, 2007 Quote Quote At least skydiving is clean. Or... Ha! Dope testing at a skydiving competition. BWAHAHAH! Don't laugh: according to the rules here, I could be tested for illegal substances at the DZ anytime just because I'm a skydiver. I don't know if it's practiced here, but those are the rules... Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #33 July 26, 2007 >..... We all get off by being high (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #34 July 26, 2007 and surely there's no way to beat testing! and I thought there actually was some testing on the pro circuit...no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #35 July 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteAt least skydiving is clean. Or... Ha! Dope testing at a skydiving competition. BWAHAHAH! Don't laugh: according to the rules here, I could be tested for illegal substances at the DZ anytime just because I'm a skydiver. I don't know if it's practiced here, but those are the rules... Uh, aren't those just rules for competitive skydivers?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #36 July 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe front runners are doping. They need to just make it ok to dope, standardize it somehow, and tada no more problems. I agree. Personally, I believe all professional sports qualify as "spectacle" and athletes ought to be able to do anything they want to win at that level. What should it matter to other mere mortals how much time they are taking off of their living lives by using steroids? Live hard/Die fast. You will never see doping stop in athletics, so why even worry about it? Chuck But then you fuck over the many athletes that actually do want to stay clean. Can you imagine telling a kid who wants to become a professional athlete that he'd better store some of his sperm in a cup right now, 'cos after all the testosterone he'll need to take to keep up with the Joneses his nuts will be shrivelled up like raisins by the end of his career? Fighting against doping is by far the more difficult option, but I think that it is worth it.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
