mr2mk1g 10 #51 March 20, 2007 QuoteSurvivor man would whoop his fawking ass!!! Yeah... cos while Bear was in the SAS, Les went to music and art collage... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydog 2 #52 March 20, 2007 Give him his due. He was on Richard & Judy (chatshow for our US friends) and he did say that a lot of the situations were staged and he is not like that all the time in real life. He was very candid and upfront about it all. Good on him.................Journey not destination..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #53 March 20, 2007 QuoteThis guy is such a freaking fake. The scene last night where he lands in the snow, if you DVR'd it and slow it down at the landing scene, he is holding onto this canopy and lines when he "lands" and then throws himself down the hill. My wife was the one who caught that one. I think a lot of his eating nasty stuff is one for shock value on TV. Sorry, Survivor Man is better. Bear must have just gone on the singles market and has to go out and get a show to try to get the ladies again. Just my 2 cents. My guess is that they recreate scenes for the show, the way the producers of Survivor do. Not everything, such as a parachute landing in the wilderness, is easy to catch on video, so they probably recreate whatever they have trouble videoing the first time.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #54 March 20, 2007 QuoteI just watched that idiot piss on his shirt and then wrap it around his head to stay cool......If you are really in a survival situation, save your piss to drink and travel at night....... Sorry, just gotta make sure... are you really advocating urine drinking in survival situations or are you kidding? Usually I have a good ear for facetiousness but it is failing me today... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark24688m 0 #55 March 20, 2007 Either way it doesnt make a difference if anything is "staged." The point of the show is to show you how to survive if it ever happens to you, not force it on himself for your viewing pleasure. For example in the rockies episode he throws himself off of a cliff into a river to SHOW YOU what to do if a bear is chasing you. The bear wasnt really chasing him at the time. Bear is the man. Survivor man is good too, but Man Vs. Wild is in my opinion a better and more entertaining show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #56 July 31, 2007 Maybe Bear is a fake....... allegations out. http://news.aol.com/entertainment/television/story/_a/man-vs-wild-now-truth-vs-deception/20070730070409990001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #57 July 31, 2007 Quote Maybe Bear is a fake....... allegations out. just watch the show, it's so contrived that it should ONLY viewed as light entertainment not even close to reality or documentaryYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #58 July 31, 2007 Quote Either way it doesnt make a difference if anything is "staged." The point of the show is to show you how to survive if it ever happens to you, not force it on himself for your viewing pleasure. I agree with that. I don't care if he did stay in hotels, he's portraying what you would do if you had to save your own life in the wilderness. If his intro is true, he was SAS (wasn't that it?) and climbed Mt. Ev like someone else said, and to quote the Fabulous Thunderbirds: "-Ain't that tuff enuff?" It is for me. Bear is cool. We DVR all of the Man vs. Wild shows, and my hubby and daughter and I love to watch it. Survivorman seemed like such a poser I quit watching it. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #59 July 31, 2007 Les Stroud rules. Screw Bear. Total fraud._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derekbox 0 #60 July 31, 2007 I enjoy watching the landings they do end up showing. He nearly always plows it in. He broke his back skydiving in S Africa to boot. What a great ambassador to skydiving he is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #61 July 31, 2007 Quote I enjoy watching the landings they do end up showing. He nearly always plows it in. He broke his back skydiving in S Africa to boot. What a great ambassador to skydiving he is. Yeah! Because none of us have ever hurt ourselves skydiving! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derekbox 0 #62 July 31, 2007 If he is billing himself as a competent survival expert and plans to insert himself into these situations via skydiving, then he should be a competant skydiver, part of which means a competant landing. Yes we hurt ourselves, but there is a difference between the occasional trip and the constant plow. If you cant do it safely then maybe he should reevaluate the method of entry. Like I said, many needless risks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #63 July 31, 2007 I still think the show is informative.......I know that those types of shows can take weeks to film, if he stays in a motel/hotel for a night or two I really don't care....as long as I know how to survive the Outback or some such place its all good. I think with any type of "reality" show you have to take it all in with a grain of salt. The guy is a man after all not a God. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #64 July 31, 2007 Quote he's portraying what you would do if you had to save your own life in the wilderness. Survivorman seemed like such a poser I quit watching it. i enjoy man vs wild, but if you got lost and followed his lead, you would die. the last thing you want to do is get wet, and the first thing he does is find water and jump in. survivorman is a much better when it comes to survival advice, although he's not as dramatic. i think you just like it when bear takes his shirt off. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #65 July 31, 2007 QuoteI still think the show is informative.......I know that those types of shows can take weeks to film, if he stays in a motel/hotel for a night or two I really don't care....as long as I know how to survive the Outback or some such place its all good. I think with any type of "reality" show you have to take it all in with a grain of salt. The guy is a man after all not a God. Bobbi It's the misrepresentation i object toYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #66 July 31, 2007 Quote Quote he's portraying what you would do if you had to save your own life in the wilderness. Survivorman seemed like such a poser I quit watching it. i enjoy man vs wild, but if you got lost and followed his lead, you would die. the last thing you want to do is get wet, and the first thing he does is find water and jump in. survivorman is a much better when it comes to survival advice, although he's not as dramatic. i think you just like it when bear takes his shirt off. Totally agree! I enjoy his show, but he typically depicts the exact opposite of what a person should do in a survival situation. You would never ever do some of the things he shows.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #67 July 31, 2007 i guess it i should also say that if the majority of your survival knowledge is gained from 1 or 2 tv show, you're in trouble if you get stuck. they're still both good shows though, and a new season of survivorman starts soon. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #68 July 31, 2007 I never said I didn't like his show. I do.... And anybody that can squeeze juice from elephant dung straight into his mouth, and pull some maggots out of a rotting deer (see I do watch), has got my vote..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark24688m 0 #69 July 31, 2007 Survivor man is a terrible show. Besides the fact that he is boring as hell he rarely gives any useful information. He also doesn't show you anything about getting out of the situation, which on the other hand is the entire point of man vs wild. The the whole point is to keep moving and get out, not just sit in a cave for a week. Bear Grylls all the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #70 July 31, 2007 QuoteIf he is billing himself as a competent survival expert and plans to insert himself into these situations via skydiving, then he should be a competant skydiver, part of which means a competant landing.. First of all, he's landing on unfamiliar ground. Second, the ground is often uneven, and full of rocks or potholes. Third, the landings are often at high altitude. Fourth, there are no wind indicators. Thus, I don't think it's fair to call him "incompetent" based upon these landings - they do not represent a normal drop zone with controlled, well-groomed conditions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #71 July 31, 2007 Second, the ground is often uneven, and full of rocks or potholes. Third, the landings are often at high altitude. Fourth, there are no wind indicators.>> Those sound like standard landing options for most of my cross country flights .... maybe he should do a Paragliding course (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #72 July 31, 2007 My two boys (ages 9 & 12) love the show among other Discovery channel shows (Dirty Jobs, Deadliest Catch). If they watch these shows as opposed to say, Jackass, I feel pretty good about their choice. Who knows maybe one day they will be lost in the woods and remember how Bear taught them to figure out which way is North.Bobbi A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #73 July 31, 2007 Quote My two boys (ages 9 & 12) love the show among other Discovery channel shows (Dirty Jobs, Deadliest Catch). If they watch these shows as opposed to say, Jackass, I feel pretty good about their choice. Who knows maybe one day they will be lost in the woods and remember how Bear taught them to figure out which way is North.Bobbi That's what I'm sayin'...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derekbox 0 #74 July 31, 2007 Unfamiliar, uneven, rocky, high altitude with no wind indicators? Would a competant skydiver jump into that situation? If yes, then he should also have the ability to safely land in that situation. Based on what I have seen, his freefall they show on tv, I would say he has probably a few hundred jumps tops. What if some 2-300 jump kid from your dropzone wanted to do a demo into an unfamiliar, uneven, rocky, high altitude with no wind indicators - sight unseen. Would you consider someone who put themselve in that situation competant? Again, lots of needless risks, and it perpetuates the myth that skydiving landings are controlled crashed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #75 August 1, 2007 Quote The the whole point is to keep moving and get out, not just sit in a cave for a week. The point is to get out intact. Injury during a survival situation will likely increase your chance of death. Bear acts like he's escaping from a freakin combat zone most times, which is wrong.... I like Bear's show, he's got decent survival skills....but he tries to add too much "reality" hollywood type acting. He teaches bad techniques sometimes whereas Survivorman does it right. Boring sometimes yes, but right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites