What Aircraft Does This Resemble?

[Andy_Copland 0]

Those forward thinking Nazi's.

1338

People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

[Tonto 1]

Osprey?

Sure that's not just a pic from a video game though?

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It's the year of the Pig.

[Lindercles 0]

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Sure that's not just a pic from a video game though?

I think he called them "forward thinking" for their ability to produce digital photography in the late 1930's.

[Andy_Copland 0]

Sure is the Osprey.

Back in England while at work there was a guy who was a bit of a nut when it came to model aircraft. He showed me this website that has all kinds of designs after we were talking about the Osprey

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This VTOL (Vertical TakeOff and Landing) aircraft project's design, by Weserflug, dates from 1938. The fuselage was fairly conventional, with a standard tail unit. The real difference in this design were the wings, which were hinged and tiltable about halfway along the length of the wings. Mounted on each end of the wing was a nacelle featuring a large diameter propeller. The wing was mounted high on the fuselage, so that the propeller would have the necessary ground clearance when the wing was tilted in flight position. A single Daimler-Benz DB 600 series engine was located in the fuselage behind the cockpit, and drove both propellers. The engine was fed by an air intake located in the nose. The main gear retracted into the fuselage, and the rear tail wheel retracted beneath the tail. A crew of two sat in a cockpit located in the top forward section of the aircraft.
Although this was a very novel idea for an aircraft at this time, the concept never left the drawing board. A very similar design was later built by the United States as the Boeing V-22 Osprey, and began testing in 1989. Even today, the tilt-rotor concept is proving troublesome, and the fact that there would have had to be a very complex gearing arrangement for the Weserflug P.1103 (to tilt the wings and keep constant power to the large diameter propellers) would have proven a very difficult design hurdle.

http://www.luft46.com/misc/wes1003.html

1338

People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

[Glitch 0]

In addition to the Osprey, it also resembles the BA 609 (A smaller, corporate version of the Osprey). There's high hopes that this smaller version will be a big hit with the corporate world (think versatility of a helicopter with the speed and fuel efficiency of a conventionl turbine).

...years ago when Boeing held the partnership with Bell, I worked on the Mid-wing gearbox which transferes power to the opposite rotor in the event of an engine failure. Anyway, the biggest obstacle to it's development and deployment at the time was how this aircraft will fit into the existing FAA regs and aviation infrastructure...

Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born...

[JohnMitchell 16]

Here's one my dad worked on in the 60s. It worked, but was prone to trouble. One of these crashed, killing both pilots. The program just kind of went away after a while.[email]

[quade 4]

Horrible idea then, horrible idea now.

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[gonzalesna 1]

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Horrible idea then, horrible idea now.

I disagree...

Great idea... poor production. Many of the guys I work with and I call the ospreys deathtraps. They're planning on using them more dependently too.

Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie.

[warpedskydiver 0]

The Germans would have probably made it work very well, and last a long time.

So would the russians, I wonder if we are ever going to build another plane with the service life of a B-52?

[normiss 893]

something tells me we will reach the same conclusion again too....

so they're even trying a civilian model...the Moller Skycar.

[BlindBrick 0]

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The Germans would have probably made it work very well, and last a long time.

Probably not all that well. Everybody gets hardons about the high-tech nature of the german WWII tech but the truth was that the vast majority of it was experimental stuff that was rushed into production without sufficient testing resulting in mechanical casualties being more common than casualties from enemy fire.

-Blind

"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it."

[Andy_Copland 0]

Say that about their tanks

Hitler just got a bit silly towards the end with his experimental super weapons.

1338

People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

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so they're even trying a civilian model...the Moller Skycar.

I can't believe Moller hasn't been locked up. How many years has he bilked investors out of money and what does he have to show for it?

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[normiss 893]

a tethered 4 engine "helicopter"?

[Meux 0]

The worst part of it is the price tag. I worked on this project for a couple years and could never get past the bottom line. If I ever needed a Helo, I'd much rather have 11 Blackhawks, than one CV-22.

We will get it shoved down our throats though by congressmen who will make handsome little profits on it.

It was fun to fly the simulator.

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[VectorBoy 0]

A really expensive leaf blower.

[kschilk 0]

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The Germans would have probably made it work very well, and last a long time.

Probably not all that well. Everybody gets hardons about the high-tech nature of the german WWII tech but the truth was that the vast majority of it was experimental stuff that was rushed into production without sufficient testing resulting in mechanical casualties being more common than casualties from enemy fire.
-Blind

It was almost always a case of "over-engineering", with Germany....still is. They like their bells & whistles.

[Beerlight 0]

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Those forward thinking Nazi's.

Germans were so far ahead in technology in WWII that it was scary Wayyyyyy more forward thinking than anyone else.


Thanks to Hitler for redirecting their assets in the wrong way helped with their defeat immensely.....

p.s. They built some cool looking aircraft.

[cocheese 0]

AN-2?

[kallend 2,147]

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Those forward thinking Nazi's.

Germans were so far ahead in technology in WWII that it was scary Wayyyyyy more forward thinking than anyone else.


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In some areas they were ahead (rockets, tanks, synthetic fuels) but they were way behind in others (nuclear, radar, cryptography and cryptanalysis, aerial reconnaissance, bombsights, bomb design, heavy bombers, long range fighters). They lost, too.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[gjhdiver 0]

Not exactly a tiltrotor, but back in the post war years, quite a lot of weird designs were built out of prototypes developed during the war by both the allied and axis powers. A British one was the Fairey Rotodyne, an early plane/VTOL hybrid. They were a weird sight to see on the rare occaision you saw one.

[JohnMitchell 16]

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In some areas they were ahead (rockets, tanks, synthetic fuels) but they were way behind in others (nuclear,

They had a head start on nuclear research, didn't they? But our destroying of their heavy water supply stymied their research efforts. They never did try graphite as a moderator, like we used. At least that's what I've read about their program.

They were also ahead of us in jet engines, too.

[kallend 2,147]

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In some areas they were ahead (rockets, tanks, synthetic fuels) but they were way behind in others (nuclear,

They had a head start on nuclear research, didn't they? But our destroying of their heavy water supply stymied their research efforts.

It wasn't just the heavy water. They were on the wrong track altogether. Their conception of a nuclear bomb was ridiculous and unworkable.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Andy_Copland 0]

After the war didn't the US take a lot of German scientists to NASA due to their knowledge of rockets/fuels etc?

1338

People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

[normiss 893]

not just NASA....