sartre 0 #1 October 8, 2007 Picture this scenario: there is a court order on a pending divorce that no party shall cancel insurance (health, in this case) on the other party without the other party's consent or a court order allowing it. Party A cancels it anyway. Party B doesn't find out until a month later, when she goes in for a biopsy and they tell her she's no longer covered, and her visits from 2 weeks ago won't be covered either. Office visits, lab tests, medication....everything during the past month that has taken place will not be covered. Does anyone know of any fines/penalties that can be assessed to the first party and/or his company? Divorce sucks. Even the "nicest" guys turn into complete pricks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #2 October 8, 2007 I'm no lawyer but this looks like a clear case of "breach of contract" or worse still "violating a court order." Either way your attorney should have a field day with this. I don't do this much but (((HUGS))) to you. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #3 October 8, 2007 Thanks Bolas. I'll take all of 'em I can get!Gotta go change my name back to "Fuck Off You-Know-Who" on myspace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #4 October 8, 2007 It certainly seems like a violation of a court order - for which you can haul him into court. But there are so many variables, I'm hesitant to get into more detail about what possible options you might have, or what practical results each option might produce. You should speak to your attorney immediately. If you don't have one, get one. If money's tight and you're not sure how, here's a few ideas: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2952472#2952472 But act now. Do not delay. One more thing - and this is vitally important: do not take legal advice from anyone - ANYONE - who is not an attorney. Period.* (* Yes, I am.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #5 October 8, 2007 PM lawrocket - I think this is his area of expertise."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #6 October 8, 2007 First: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=882788#882788 Second: This is an issue with regard to violation of a Restraining Order, which is contempt of court. Not only can the court have something to say, but yo may be able to get HIM to pay for all of the uncovered medical expenses. Get some competent legal advice about this. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #7 October 8, 2007 Quote Get some competent legal advice about this. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2973346#2973346 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #8 October 8, 2007 QuotePM lawrocket - I think this is his area of expertise. It is one of my areas of expertise, but unless it's a California dissolution, I can't tell her nuthin. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #9 October 8, 2007 Quote Quote PM lawrocket - I think this is his area of expertise. It is one of my areas of expertise, but unless it's a California dissolution, I can't tell her nuthin. Oh blah blah blah ... it's California, home of "I'm not a lawyer but I play one on TV." "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 October 8, 2007 No, it's more that "practicing law without a license" sort of thing. California won't hose me until whatever her home state is convicts me. Then I lose my license in California and I will be forced to find some other way to pay back my student loans. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #11 October 8, 2007 Well that's when you *actually* play a lawyer on TV."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #12 October 8, 2007 I was simply wondering if anyone knew of any options available, as in, is it a punishable offense or not. Of course I would hire an attorney if that's what I needed to do, but I was curious as to whether anyone had seen any sanctions imposed in such an instance. Thanks for the input folks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 October 8, 2007 QuoteI will be forced to find some other way to pay back my student loans. Standard reply on here: go to a DZ and become a packer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #14 October 8, 2007 Quote was curious as to whether anyone had seen any sanctions imposed in such an instance. Yes. Quite sizable sanctions, in fact. Like total costs for uncovered medical. It was something like 7,000.00 for a minor outpatient surgery. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #15 October 9, 2007 I enjoy being a 2L. It sucks less than being a 1L.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoShitThereIWas 0 #16 October 11, 2007 First off: I agree, Divorce SUCKS. I was involved in similar bullshit and worse. My ex was ruthless. Things similar to this situation would happen to me all the time. In a "true" judicial system or court of law, Party A should be liable for Party B's medical bills unless Party A can prove that Party B was notified and even so, the court order or decree I am assuming states that Party A is to keep insurance for Party B. The Court may take into account any mitigating circumstances of Party A, of there were any, but Party A should be liable to Party B for violating the Court order. My Mom is a family law attorney, I will ask her next time I talk to her. Unfortunately however, in my experience, what is theoretically justice and what is executed as justice often turn out to be quite different. In my miserable experience with divorce, the party who was more sly and had more power and money could outlast and destroy the other party and pretty much get what they wanted. My experience was also in the Hawaiian Family Court and I believe the family court and criminal court in that state are nothing like mainland courts and pretty much do whatever they feel without any reasoning of the law. Ultimately though, if you are a firm believer in Karma (and I am), what goes around does come around as long as you are strong in your own convictions. Things eventually worked out for me; not in the most ideal way ... but they nonetheless worked out. The sad thing is, when two people go into battle against each other, the only real winners are the attorneys. Roy Bacon: "Elvises, light your fires." Sting: "Be yourself no matter what they say." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites