skybytch 273 #1 October 22, 2007 From The Leaky Cauldron - QuoteThe question was: Did Dumbledore, who believed in the prevailing power of love, ever fall in love himself? JKR: My truthful answer to you... I always thought of Dumbledore as gay. [ovation.] ... Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald, and that that added to his horror when Grindelwald showed himself to be what he was. To an extent, do we say it excused Dumbledore a little more because falling in love can blind us to an extent? But, he met someone as brilliant as he was, and rather like Bellatrix he was very drawn to this brilliant person, and horribly, terribly let down by him. Yeah, that's how i always saw Dumbledore. In fact, recently I was in a script read through for the sixth film, and they had Dumbledore saying a line to Harry early in the script saying I knew a girl once, whose hair... [laughter]. I had to write a little note in the margin and slide it along to the scriptwriter, "Dumbledore's gay!" [laughter] "If I'd known it would make you so happy, I would have announced it years ago!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysprite 0 #2 October 22, 2007 Wow ~skysprite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #3 October 22, 2007 That just kind of disturbed me... Not because I mind him being gay but I always thought he might have been married or so and that's why he's all about the love thingy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #4 October 22, 2007 Quote From The Leaky Cauldron - Quote The question was: Did Dumbledore, who believed in the prevailing power of love, ever fall in love himself? JKR: My truthful answer to you... I always thought of Dumbledore as gay. [ovation.] ... Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald, and that that added to his horror when Grindelwald showed himself to be what he was. To an extent, do we say it excused Dumbledore a little more because falling in love can blind us to an extent? But, he met someone as brilliant as he was, and rather like Bellatrix he was very drawn to this brilliant person, and horribly, terribly let down by him. Yeah, that's how i always saw Dumbledore. In fact, recently I was in a script read through for the sixth film, and they had Dumbledore saying a line to Harry early in the script saying I knew a girl once, whose hair... [laughter]. I had to write a little note in the margin and slide it along to the scriptwriter, "Dumbledore's gay!" [laughter] "If I'd known it would make you so happy, I would have announced it years ago!" Please excuse my ignorance/bad memory of the overall Potter story, but is his love for Grindelwald referenced in the books? What did Grindelwald show himself to be?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #5 October 22, 2007 QuotePlease excuse my ignorance/bad memory of the overall Potter story, but is his love for Grindelwald referenced in the books? What did Grindelwald show himself to be? In the seventh and final book, it is revealed that Dumbledore and Grindelwald were childhood friends, who were planning on a "new order" with muggles subservient to wizards. They had a falling out with each other and Dumbledore's brother Aberforth, and in the ensuing fight, Dumbledore's sister Arianna was killed. After that, Dumbledore reconsidered his position, but Grindelwald remained steadfastly "evil". In later years, Grindelwald rose to power (in a bad way) and Dumbledore was obliged to remove him from power. It was considered one of the greatest modern duels between wizards. Grindelwald had previously built a prison in which he intended to incarcerate those who were against him, but instead, Dumbledore jailed Grindelwald in his own prison after Dumbledore beat him in the duel. There, Grindelwald remained to his dying day. Sorry if I get some facts wrong - this is all from memory. Now JK is alluding that Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald when they were still young, although she hasn't mentioned if the love was requited by Grindelwald. None of it has any real relevance to the HP storyline, so it's not surprising that it was omitted.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #6 October 22, 2007 QuoteQuotePlease excuse my ignorance/bad memory of the overall Potter story, but is his love for Grindelwald referenced in the books? What did Grindelwald show himself to be? In the seventh and final book, it is revealed that Dumbledore and Grindelwald were childhood friends, who were planning on a "new order" with muggles subservient to wizards. They had a falling out with each other and Dumbledore's brother Aberforth, and in the ensuing fight, Dumbledore's sister Arianna was killed. After that, Dumbledore reconsidered his position, but Grindelwald remained steadfastly "evil". In later years, Grindelwald rose to power (in a bad way) and Dumbledore was obliged to remove him from power. It was considered one of the greatest modern duels between wizards. Grindelwald had previously built a prison in which he intended to incarcerate those who were against him, but instead, Dumbledore jailed Grindelwald in his own prison after Dumbledore beat him in the duel. There, Grindelwald remained to his dying day. Sorry if I get some facts wrong - this is all from memory. Now JK is alluding that Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald when they were still young, although she hasn't mentioned if the love was requited by Grindelwald. None of it has any real relevance to the HP storyline, so it's not surprising that it was omitted. Thank you. For her to say, "I always thought of him as gay", but to never have anything in the books to indicate it, is really strange.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #7 October 22, 2007 DAMMIT! I always wanted him to hook up with Professor Mc Gonagall... ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #8 October 22, 2007 Not that I've read any of the HP books or movies, but...how does this news actually matter? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #9 October 22, 2007 QuoteNot that I've read any of the HP books or movies, but...how does this news actually matter? It's brilliant marketing ploy to sell more books, with fundies and LGBT types scouring all 7 books to find evidence. She's taken a page from Marilyn Manson's playbook: Step 1: Generate controversy Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 October 22, 2007 I would reply.. but I will wait till it gets moved to Speakers Corner......Hate to get banned from Bonfire... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #11 October 22, 2007 Quote Not that I've read any of the HP books or movies, but...how does this news actually matter? If you haven't read the books then it doesn't matter at all. Move along, nothing to see here. It does matter to that small segment of the population who got into the books enough to wonder/speculate about the characters "lives" beyond what the author put in the books. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #12 October 22, 2007 Quote I would reply.. but I will wait till it gets moved to Speakers Corner......Hate to get banned from Bonfire... Already there: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2987295;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #13 October 22, 2007 I know..... saw it right away... and knew it would get some people all riled up...It has.. CBN and some of the others are already yackin about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #14 October 22, 2007 QuoteCBN and some of the others are already yackin about it. Don't they have something better to do? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #15 October 22, 2007 QuoteQuoteCBN and some of the others are already yackin about it. Don't they have something better to do? ltdiver Like use Pat Robertson's Tax-free Operation Blessing aircraft to illegally ferry diamond mining equipment to the mines that War Criminal Charles Taylor granted him exclusive access to?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #16 October 22, 2007 Your one warning. No political posts in Bonfire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #17 October 22, 2007 QuoteYour one warning. No political posts in Bonfire. Deleted. No need to get so bent out of shape...Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepDiver 0 #18 October 22, 2007 Never read the book/books or watched the movies. I could care less. It is fiction after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 October 22, 2007 Quote Don't they have something better to do? No not really... not when it is their favorite boogie men Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #20 October 22, 2007 Quote Quote Don't they have something better to do? No not really... not when it is their favorite boogie men Wonder how many of them have watched "Wizard of Oz" in years past. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 October 22, 2007 Hell there is a new movie coming out next month.. and they are already raggin on it......The Golden Compass is already on their hit list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #22 October 22, 2007 QuoteThank you. For her to say, "I always thought of him as gay", but to never have anything in the books to indicate it, is really strange. Why is it strange? Authors often get very involved with their characters and imagine them with a greater complexity/ backstory than they can include in their books. Would it have been 'strange' if Rowling had said that Dumbledore had once had a straight affair with Professor McGonnagall? If JK Rowling is asked a direct question about what she imagined Dumbledore's love life to be why shouldn't she anwer truthfully? The 'strange' thing (IMO) would be if she either lied about it or refused to answer for fear of hurting someone's feelings.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #23 October 23, 2007 Look what i foundYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lauraliscious 0 #24 October 23, 2007 Quote She's taken a page from Marilyn Manson's playbook: Step 1: Generate controversy Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit. But....but....I thought that was a play from South Park's underpants gnomes! Phase 1: Steal underpants Phase 2: ??? Phase 3: Profit Enemiga Rodriguez, PMS #369, OrFun #25, Team Dirty Sanchez #116, Pelt Head #29, Muff #4091 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #25 October 23, 2007 Quote From The Leaky Cauldron - I wonder if the gerbil would be replaced by the blast ended scroot.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
