CSpenceFLY 1 #1 January 16, 2008 Maybe I'm missing something here. If I am someone please explain it to me. It seems to me that the more people that go to a site the more potential money there is to be made in advertising. Right? Something said in another thread got on my last nerve. It was a reference to free advertising. While it is true that I have always promoted my events here, (incidently I have no connection what so ever to Skyfest other then since I am not doing Dublin again and the WFFC is not happening I thought that Skyfest was going to be the place to go this year) I have also promoted Dropzone.com as the place to go for information about skydiving. Does my promoting this site pay for my "free advertising"? I'm not sure. I guess not since it was brought up. My thinking in this was that since an event was moving both time and place that it would be good to get that info out there. I don't see any babysitting needed. Of course we don't know how many petty people PMed the mods about the 4 month rule. My two points would be.. ..sometimes there should be a little flexability ..sometimes you should step back and make sure your looking at the whole picture. Sometimes the picture changes while your staring at one spot. Have a nice day!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #2 January 16, 2008 ...I always voted for Chickens. You can't make viable chicken eggs without a minimum of two chickens having sex.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skysprite 0 #3 January 16, 2008 Quote...I always voted for Chickens. You can't make viable chicken eggs without a minimum of two chickens having sex. The chicken & the egg were lying in bed after having sex & the chicken lit a cigarette. The egg says, "I guess that answers THAT question!"~skysprite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #4 January 16, 2008 Quote ...I always voted for Chickens. You can't make viable chicken eggs without a minimum of two chickens having sex. but the adage is not "which came 1st the chicken or the VIABLE egg" you only need a laying hen to lay an eggYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NtheSeaOrSky 0 #5 January 16, 2008 From the outside looking in, the issue seems to be less about a community coming together and more about whose pockets get deeper. Then again, it 'aint no damn democracy' its a business, which coincidentally depends on a customer base. I do wonder, how many scholarships dropzone.com handed out after the annual boogie?Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites iluvtofly 0 #6 January 16, 2008 Poor spence, having a serious thread turned into a sex discussion. Go figure you're involved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites johndh1 0 #7 January 16, 2008 That's unfortunate, Spence; but wanna see a picture of a pierced cock? Then this is the place...but by all means, don't expect any "gray area" when it comes the real issues of forum standards and practices.Roll Tide Roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bolas 5 #8 January 16, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKw9RHd9YAo Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #9 January 16, 2008 Quote From the outside looking in, the issue seems to be less about a community coming together and more about whose pockets get deeper. Then again, it 'aint no damn democracy' its a business, which coincidentally depends on a customer base. I do wonder, how many scholarships dropzone.com handed out after the annual boogie? Unfortunately, what used to be a community is now a group of cliques. Community doesn't scale (here is an excellent article on the subject). What you are calling "a community coming together" is really a clique demanding attention. Those who are not a part of that clique may very well consider the multiple threads in multiple forums about others pet event(s) to be spam. You've been around here long enough to remember when Sangiro paid for this site out of his pocket. I believe at one point the cost to him was the equivalent of several complete new rigs a year. If he has made up in revenue more than he's put out, good for him - that's known as a successful business model. Why shouldn't he make money off something he put shitloads of time and money into? This site has grown to be an excellent resource for skydivers and wannabe skydivers (note that I said this site, not these forums...). The information and services provided here cost the user nothing. imho, by building this site Sangiro has already given back more to the skydiving community than most of us ever will. Suggesting that he give even more... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #10 January 16, 2008 Quote Poor spence, having a serious thread turned into a sex discussion. Go figure you're involved. i made no mention of sex what so ever, and i am rarely involved in those types of threadsYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #11 January 16, 2008 Quote but the adage is not "which came 1st the chicken or the VIABLE egg" you only need a laying hen to lay an egg There'd be no egg. The chicken would be fried and on my plate.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sangiro 26 #12 January 16, 2008 Spence, Thought I've never met you, I have always and still consider you a friend. You're not going to be treated differently (call it "flexibility" if you want) because you "promote the site" though. Quote Does my promoting this site pay for my "free advertising"? I'm not sure. I guess not since it was brought up. No it doesn't, but that's not really the point is it? What you're basically saying is: "As long as I'm out there telling people about Dropzone.com and promoting the site I should be allowed to break the rules and be treated differently." And if that's not what you're saying then I assure you, there's a mighty long line of users who also host boogies and events who can't wait to read it like that. I trust I don't have to spend too much time explaining that slippery slope to you. Quote ..sometimes you should step back and make sure your looking at the whole picture. Sometimes the picture changes while your staring at one spot. This is true. Do you just say this or do you actually apply it yourself? Sorry for getting on your last nerve. Sit back and enjoy the site. This forum will still be there when the time comes to start making the list for this event. Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #13 January 16, 2008 Really no cause for concern, Chris. Sangiro's ballgame. Play, watch or stay home.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #14 January 16, 2008 Quote Quote but the adage is not "which came 1st the chicken or the VIABLE egg" you only need a laying hen to lay an egg There'd be no egg. The chicken would be fried and on my plate. 4 Fried chickens and a coke (and some dry white toast please)You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bolas 5 #15 January 16, 2008 Quote Quote Quote but the adage is not "which came 1st the chicken or the VIABLE egg" you only need a laying hen to lay an egg There'd be no egg. The chicken would be fried and on my plate. 4 Fried chickens and a coke (and some dry white toast please) Mrs. Murphy: We got two honkies out there, dressed like Hasidic diamond merchants. Matt Murphy: Say what? Mrs. Murphy: They look like they're from the CIA, or somethin'. Matt Murphy: What they want to eat? Mrs. Murphy: The tall one wants white toast, dry, with nothin' on it. Matt Murphy: Elwood. Mrs. Murphy: And the short one wants four whole fried chickens, and a Coke. Matt Murphy: And Jake. Shit, the Blues Brothers. Love that movie!!!! Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NtheSeaOrSky 0 #16 January 16, 2008 QuoteYou've been around here long enough to remember when Sangiro paid for this site out of his pocket. I believe at one point the cost to him was the equivalent of several complete new rigs a year. If he has made up in revenue more than he's put out, good for him - that's known as a successful business model. Why shouldn't he make money off something he put shitloads of time and money into? If you re-read what I posted, I never said he 'shouldn't make money' off his site, what I said was his business depends on a customer base. Surely you are not arguing that it doesn't? Quoteimho, by building this site Sangiro has already given back more to the skydiving community than most of us ever will. Suggesting that he give even more... Again, if you re-read my post you will see I ask a question (which I highly doubt to receive an answer to) as a curious customer. You made the leap you are inferring. Yes I have been here off and on for a while. I do also remember a time that I questioned the cost of our memorial pages in Parachutist (do you remember your stance on this way back then?) and recently see that some companies have donated their 'discounted rate' to offset some of the cost. Throwing a pebble in the water is not always a 'bad' thing.Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sangiro 26 #17 January 16, 2008 QuoteAgain, if you re-read my post you will see I ask a question (which I highly doubt to receive an answer to) as a curious customer. You made the leap you are inferring. I'll gladly answer your 'question'. Dropzone.com does not make a single penny from the annual boogie. Nothing. Which scholarship account would you like me to deposit that into? You actually made the leap by assuming.Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #18 January 16, 2008 imho, by building this site Sangiro has already given back more to the skydiving community than most of us ever will. Quote Reading the USPA PR announcement about how well the sport is doing, got me thinking....(yeah yeah, I know...but go with it) I know there is, nor ever would be, a way to gauge the impact this site has had on the sport overall, but I'm willing to be it's quite significant. H.H. has made the skydiving world a lot smaller and easier to get around in regarding the exchange of ideas and information...WORLD WIDE. Those efforts seem to go unnoticed or at least unappreciated at times...and that's unfortunate. Thanks Sangiro ! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Broke 0 #19 January 16, 2008 He also made it easier to piss off more people a lot faster than alcohol and a pistolDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #20 January 16, 2008 Quote He also made it easier to piss off more people a lot faster than alcohol and a pistol Yeah, maybe...but with far less dramatic results! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #21 January 16, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote but the adage is not "which came 1st the chicken or the VIABLE egg" you only need a laying hen to lay an egg There'd be no egg. The chicken would be fried and on my plate. 4 Fried chickens and a coke (and some dry white toast please) Mrs. Murphy: We got two honkies out there, dressed like Hasidic diamond merchants. Matt Murphy: Say what? Mrs. Murphy: They look like they're from the CIA, or somethin'. Matt Murphy: What they want to eat? Mrs. Murphy: The tall one wants white toast, dry, with nothin' on it. Matt Murphy: Elwood. Mrs. Murphy: And the short one wants four whole fried chickens, and a Coke. Matt Murphy: And Jake. Shit, the Blues Brothers. Love that movie!!!! Yep! My all-time favorite! "I don't believe if it's that shit black car again" "I've always loved you" "You're up shit creek!" (whack) "Owww!" "How much for the women? How much for the little girl?" "Don't you say a fucking word!" So many more liners I can't list them all! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stitch 0 #22 January 16, 2008 Quote Quote Poor spence, having a serious thread turned into a sex discussion. Go figure you're involved. i made no mention of sex what so ever, and i am rarely involved in those types of threads Question; If a house with two gay men in it catches on fire, which one gets out first??"No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #23 January 16, 2008 Quote Unfortunately, what used to be a community is now a group of cliques. Community doesn't scale (here is an excellent article on the subject). What you are calling "a community coming together" is really a clique demanding attention. Those who are not a part of that clique may very well consider the multiple threads in multiple forums about others pet event(s) to be spam. No matter what the event, I find myself tuning out of the threads for the most part when they ramp up to multiple pages and multiple threads many months before the event. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too high, and it's the same people making the same inside jokes over and over again whether it's Dublin or Prairie or Skyfest or the Holiday Boogie. And yes, I've been guilty of being part of that noise before, but lately I've realized how it's mostly just static. Even if I'm planning to attend the event, and even if it's one of my favorite events to attend, I almost wish the hype on DZ.com would die down a little bit because I prefer the events to speak for themselves. Constant in-group chit-chat about inside jokes and inside stuff only serves to make the event itself actually seem less appealing. It's oddly counter-productive. Might just be me, though."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites speedy 0 #24 January 16, 2008 Your poll is a bit like "have you stopped beating your wife now?" What came first was forum users. The rest followed according the rules laid down by the person running the site. Looking at how the site has developed, it appears the owner has done a pretty good job. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #25 January 16, 2008 Quote Spence, Quote Thought I've never met you, I have always and still consider you a friend. Same here. Quote You're not going to be treated differently (call it "flexibility" if you want) because you "promote the site" though. I am not asking to be treated differently.Regardless of what anyone thinks my first thread was not a promotion, it was a thread looking for information. My second thread was just a poke with a stick. Obviously no one seems to have a sense of humor anymore. I dare he should mess with a mod. Quote Does my promoting this site pay for my "free advertising"? I'm not sure. I guess not since it was brought up. Quote No it doesn't, but that's not really the point is it? What you're basically saying is: "As long as I'm out there telling people about Dropzone.com and promoting the site I should be allowed to break the rules and be treated differently." Not even close to what I am saying. I think at one time you would have been thrilled to have people from all over the country and world coming to your site to talk about an event. Now it seem that people should feel guilty because an event is being talked about here and no money is being paid. If that is not the case then I think the free advertising comment should be retracked. After all this site was built on free advertising. Yes, you built the site but the users made it what it is. It's called word of mouth and it was free. It happened because you created a quality site. Quote And if that's not what you're saying then I assure you, there's a mighty long line of users who also host boogies and events who can't wait to read it like that. I trust I don't have to spend too much time explaining that slippery slope to you. Not what I'm saying and when said people get an event that draws 300+ from all over the country and world they can PM you and ask for their own special treatment. Quote ..sometimes you should step back and make sure your looking at the whole picture. Sometimes the picture changes while your staring at one spot. Quote This is true. Do you just say this or do you actually apply it yourself? Sorry for getting on your last nerve. I can assure you that I have taken many steps back in the last two years and especially the last 10 months. Great thing about my nerves is I think they have ADD. Quote Sit back and enjoy the site. This forum will still be there when the time comes to start making the list for this event. 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popsjumper 2 #2 January 16, 2008 ...I always voted for Chickens. You can't make viable chicken eggs without a minimum of two chickens having sex.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysprite 0 #3 January 16, 2008 Quote...I always voted for Chickens. You can't make viable chicken eggs without a minimum of two chickens having sex. The chicken & the egg were lying in bed after having sex & the chicken lit a cigarette. The egg says, "I guess that answers THAT question!"~skysprite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #4 January 16, 2008 Quote ...I always voted for Chickens. You can't make viable chicken eggs without a minimum of two chickens having sex. but the adage is not "which came 1st the chicken or the VIABLE egg" you only need a laying hen to lay an eggYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #5 January 16, 2008 From the outside looking in, the issue seems to be less about a community coming together and more about whose pockets get deeper. Then again, it 'aint no damn democracy' its a business, which coincidentally depends on a customer base. I do wonder, how many scholarships dropzone.com handed out after the annual boogie?Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iluvtofly 0 #6 January 16, 2008 Poor spence, having a serious thread turned into a sex discussion. Go figure you're involved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndh1 0 #7 January 16, 2008 That's unfortunate, Spence; but wanna see a picture of a pierced cock? Then this is the place...but by all means, don't expect any "gray area" when it comes the real issues of forum standards and practices.Roll Tide Roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #8 January 16, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKw9RHd9YAo Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #9 January 16, 2008 Quote From the outside looking in, the issue seems to be less about a community coming together and more about whose pockets get deeper. Then again, it 'aint no damn democracy' its a business, which coincidentally depends on a customer base. I do wonder, how many scholarships dropzone.com handed out after the annual boogie? Unfortunately, what used to be a community is now a group of cliques. Community doesn't scale (here is an excellent article on the subject). What you are calling "a community coming together" is really a clique demanding attention. Those who are not a part of that clique may very well consider the multiple threads in multiple forums about others pet event(s) to be spam. You've been around here long enough to remember when Sangiro paid for this site out of his pocket. I believe at one point the cost to him was the equivalent of several complete new rigs a year. If he has made up in revenue more than he's put out, good for him - that's known as a successful business model. Why shouldn't he make money off something he put shitloads of time and money into? This site has grown to be an excellent resource for skydivers and wannabe skydivers (note that I said this site, not these forums...). The information and services provided here cost the user nothing. imho, by building this site Sangiro has already given back more to the skydiving community than most of us ever will. Suggesting that he give even more... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #10 January 16, 2008 Quote Poor spence, having a serious thread turned into a sex discussion. Go figure you're involved. i made no mention of sex what so ever, and i am rarely involved in those types of threadsYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #11 January 16, 2008 Quote but the adage is not "which came 1st the chicken or the VIABLE egg" you only need a laying hen to lay an egg There'd be no egg. The chicken would be fried and on my plate.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #12 January 16, 2008 Spence, Thought I've never met you, I have always and still consider you a friend. You're not going to be treated differently (call it "flexibility" if you want) because you "promote the site" though. Quote Does my promoting this site pay for my "free advertising"? I'm not sure. I guess not since it was brought up. No it doesn't, but that's not really the point is it? What you're basically saying is: "As long as I'm out there telling people about Dropzone.com and promoting the site I should be allowed to break the rules and be treated differently." And if that's not what you're saying then I assure you, there's a mighty long line of users who also host boogies and events who can't wait to read it like that. I trust I don't have to spend too much time explaining that slippery slope to you. Quote ..sometimes you should step back and make sure your looking at the whole picture. Sometimes the picture changes while your staring at one spot. This is true. Do you just say this or do you actually apply it yourself? Sorry for getting on your last nerve. Sit back and enjoy the site. This forum will still be there when the time comes to start making the list for this event. Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #13 January 16, 2008 Really no cause for concern, Chris. Sangiro's ballgame. Play, watch or stay home.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #14 January 16, 2008 Quote Quote but the adage is not "which came 1st the chicken or the VIABLE egg" you only need a laying hen to lay an egg There'd be no egg. The chicken would be fried and on my plate. 4 Fried chickens and a coke (and some dry white toast please)You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #15 January 16, 2008 Quote Quote Quote but the adage is not "which came 1st the chicken or the VIABLE egg" you only need a laying hen to lay an egg There'd be no egg. The chicken would be fried and on my plate. 4 Fried chickens and a coke (and some dry white toast please) Mrs. Murphy: We got two honkies out there, dressed like Hasidic diamond merchants. Matt Murphy: Say what? Mrs. Murphy: They look like they're from the CIA, or somethin'. Matt Murphy: What they want to eat? Mrs. Murphy: The tall one wants white toast, dry, with nothin' on it. Matt Murphy: Elwood. Mrs. Murphy: And the short one wants four whole fried chickens, and a Coke. Matt Murphy: And Jake. Shit, the Blues Brothers. Love that movie!!!! Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #16 January 16, 2008 QuoteYou've been around here long enough to remember when Sangiro paid for this site out of his pocket. I believe at one point the cost to him was the equivalent of several complete new rigs a year. If he has made up in revenue more than he's put out, good for him - that's known as a successful business model. Why shouldn't he make money off something he put shitloads of time and money into? If you re-read what I posted, I never said he 'shouldn't make money' off his site, what I said was his business depends on a customer base. Surely you are not arguing that it doesn't? Quoteimho, by building this site Sangiro has already given back more to the skydiving community than most of us ever will. Suggesting that he give even more... Again, if you re-read my post you will see I ask a question (which I highly doubt to receive an answer to) as a curious customer. You made the leap you are inferring. Yes I have been here off and on for a while. I do also remember a time that I questioned the cost of our memorial pages in Parachutist (do you remember your stance on this way back then?) and recently see that some companies have donated their 'discounted rate' to offset some of the cost. Throwing a pebble in the water is not always a 'bad' thing.Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #17 January 16, 2008 QuoteAgain, if you re-read my post you will see I ask a question (which I highly doubt to receive an answer to) as a curious customer. You made the leap you are inferring. I'll gladly answer your 'question'. Dropzone.com does not make a single penny from the annual boogie. Nothing. Which scholarship account would you like me to deposit that into? You actually made the leap by assuming.Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #18 January 16, 2008 imho, by building this site Sangiro has already given back more to the skydiving community than most of us ever will. Quote Reading the USPA PR announcement about how well the sport is doing, got me thinking....(yeah yeah, I know...but go with it) I know there is, nor ever would be, a way to gauge the impact this site has had on the sport overall, but I'm willing to be it's quite significant. H.H. has made the skydiving world a lot smaller and easier to get around in regarding the exchange of ideas and information...WORLD WIDE. Those efforts seem to go unnoticed or at least unappreciated at times...and that's unfortunate. Thanks Sangiro ! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #19 January 16, 2008 He also made it easier to piss off more people a lot faster than alcohol and a pistolDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #20 January 16, 2008 Quote He also made it easier to piss off more people a lot faster than alcohol and a pistol Yeah, maybe...but with far less dramatic results! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #21 January 16, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote but the adage is not "which came 1st the chicken or the VIABLE egg" you only need a laying hen to lay an egg There'd be no egg. The chicken would be fried and on my plate. 4 Fried chickens and a coke (and some dry white toast please) Mrs. Murphy: We got two honkies out there, dressed like Hasidic diamond merchants. Matt Murphy: Say what? Mrs. Murphy: They look like they're from the CIA, or somethin'. Matt Murphy: What they want to eat? Mrs. Murphy: The tall one wants white toast, dry, with nothin' on it. Matt Murphy: Elwood. Mrs. Murphy: And the short one wants four whole fried chickens, and a Coke. Matt Murphy: And Jake. Shit, the Blues Brothers. Love that movie!!!! Yep! My all-time favorite! "I don't believe if it's that shit black car again" "I've always loved you" "You're up shit creek!" (whack) "Owww!" "How much for the women? How much for the little girl?" "Don't you say a fucking word!" So many more liners I can't list them all! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #22 January 16, 2008 Quote Quote Poor spence, having a serious thread turned into a sex discussion. Go figure you're involved. i made no mention of sex what so ever, and i am rarely involved in those types of threads Question; If a house with two gay men in it catches on fire, which one gets out first??"No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #23 January 16, 2008 Quote Unfortunately, what used to be a community is now a group of cliques. Community doesn't scale (here is an excellent article on the subject). What you are calling "a community coming together" is really a clique demanding attention. Those who are not a part of that clique may very well consider the multiple threads in multiple forums about others pet event(s) to be spam. No matter what the event, I find myself tuning out of the threads for the most part when they ramp up to multiple pages and multiple threads many months before the event. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too high, and it's the same people making the same inside jokes over and over again whether it's Dublin or Prairie or Skyfest or the Holiday Boogie. And yes, I've been guilty of being part of that noise before, but lately I've realized how it's mostly just static. Even if I'm planning to attend the event, and even if it's one of my favorite events to attend, I almost wish the hype on DZ.com would die down a little bit because I prefer the events to speak for themselves. Constant in-group chit-chat about inside jokes and inside stuff only serves to make the event itself actually seem less appealing. It's oddly counter-productive. Might just be me, though."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #24 January 16, 2008 Your poll is a bit like "have you stopped beating your wife now?" What came first was forum users. The rest followed according the rules laid down by the person running the site. Looking at how the site has developed, it appears the owner has done a pretty good job. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #25 January 16, 2008 Quote Spence, Quote Thought I've never met you, I have always and still consider you a friend. Same here. Quote You're not going to be treated differently (call it "flexibility" if you want) because you "promote the site" though. I am not asking to be treated differently.Regardless of what anyone thinks my first thread was not a promotion, it was a thread looking for information. My second thread was just a poke with a stick. Obviously no one seems to have a sense of humor anymore. I dare he should mess with a mod. Quote Does my promoting this site pay for my "free advertising"? I'm not sure. I guess not since it was brought up. Quote No it doesn't, but that's not really the point is it? What you're basically saying is: "As long as I'm out there telling people about Dropzone.com and promoting the site I should be allowed to break the rules and be treated differently." Not even close to what I am saying. I think at one time you would have been thrilled to have people from all over the country and world coming to your site to talk about an event. Now it seem that people should feel guilty because an event is being talked about here and no money is being paid. If that is not the case then I think the free advertising comment should be retracked. After all this site was built on free advertising. Yes, you built the site but the users made it what it is. It's called word of mouth and it was free. It happened because you created a quality site. Quote And if that's not what you're saying then I assure you, there's a mighty long line of users who also host boogies and events who can't wait to read it like that. I trust I don't have to spend too much time explaining that slippery slope to you. Not what I'm saying and when said people get an event that draws 300+ from all over the country and world they can PM you and ask for their own special treatment. Quote ..sometimes you should step back and make sure your looking at the whole picture. Sometimes the picture changes while your staring at one spot. Quote This is true. Do you just say this or do you actually apply it yourself? Sorry for getting on your last nerve. I can assure you that I have taken many steps back in the last two years and especially the last 10 months. Great thing about my nerves is I think they have ADD. Quote Sit back and enjoy the site. This forum will still be there when the time comes to start making the list for this event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
