Scoop 0 #1 April 7, 2006 OK, its not got any canopies in it yet and obviously that will effect things slightly but having stuffed it with assorted stuff to pack it out I have few questions about the harness. PIC 1 - Hip ring location. Now it feels fine and comfortable but looks little high and reaching for the PC it feels slightly higher than I'm used to. My hip bone is actually under the V shaped part of the leg strap. Is this a trademark wings thing or could it be slightly too short. If needs adjusting I guess thats a back to manufacturer thing is it? PIC 2 - The RSL attachment to risers looks quite cluttered. Is it sitting as it should? All seems to be routed out of the way nicely. Maybe I'm just not use to seeing this type of attachment. PIC 3 - Ridiculously long chest strap. (sorry for my poor aim with camera) Is this just a case of getting local rigger to shorten it? Thanks people! Oh and no doubt when I have my rig fully assembled with canopies AAD etc my rigger will inspect it all and advise me too. Just wondered what your opinions were. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites atsaubrey 0 #2 April 7, 2006 do you have the leg straps cinched down? can't tell form the pic."GOT LEAD?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #3 April 7, 2006 They are done up as if was jumping. Pulling the legstraps uncomfortably tighter doesn't seem to move the hip ring at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mostly_Harmless 0 #4 April 7, 2006 I am no expert but your RSL looks fine and your chest trap looks fine too. You just need to fold it back under the spandex band. Just ask your rigger when you drop it off to have the canopies put in, it's not hard._________________________________________ www.myspace.com/termvelocity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fcajump 164 #5 April 7, 2006 QuoteOK, its not got any canopies in it yet and obviously that will effect things slightly but having stuffed it with assorted stuff to pack it out I have few questions about the harness. PIC 3 - Ridiculously long chest strap. (sorry for my poor aim with camera) Is this just a case of getting local rigger to shorten it? Having the chest strap shortened is easy, BUT don't do anything until the rig is completely filled out (with canopies) and you have jumped it for a while. You may find a reason to keep the extra. And making it longer is much harder than shortening it (or leaving it along). Just my $.02 JAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityGirl 0 #6 April 7, 2006 You are going to loosen that chest strap when it has canopies and perhaps pull down the leg straps. It's a bit hard to tell without the reserve in there. The canopies will pull the rig up over your back more and it will sit slightly lower on your butt. You may have to shorten your chest strap a bit, but most people like to loosen them up under canopy. I like mine a bit long for that reason. The RSL looks clean to me. I would say pack it up. But if you are not saticfied with the fit at that point contact your dealer before you jump it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zoter 0 #7 April 7, 2006 Firstly .....I forgive you for copying my colour scheme ... I found the same.....hip rings 'slightly' higher than you would expect.....I spoke with others who said the same....its the design of the container and just takes a bit to get used to.....on the positive side it 'aids' holding the holding the rig tighter to your body......therefore not so much movement of the container on your back during (particularly) freeflying. RSL looks like an RSL.....whats your concern here...? Chest strap looks fine.....just fold the excess and stow under a bungee....... As you explore canopy flight more....you will want to 'adjust' your chest strap after opening....helping to spread the risers and giving the canopy a more efficient flying shape.... Nice rig.....flying this weekend....? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #8 April 7, 2006 Darren... Well I bought your old jumpsuit so I had to get gear to match. By the way its sporting some mighty fine grass stains at the moment.. Thank god for the padded knees and arse! Sadly not. Funds are tight as been out of work *cue violins* and haven't renewed my criminally priced BPA membership. Might go down the DZ with my camera if weathers nice though and get some landing shots. Got new lens for my birthday! EDIT: I've seen your vids too, you'll really hate me when you see my helmet. Haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zoter 0 #9 April 7, 2006 eeeek....well just dont start stalking me or I will have to call the police....... hang on...police....you..... Let me know when you are jumping again......lets go do something ! Matching rigs , jumpsuits and helmets........it'll look like a team... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,483 #10 April 7, 2006 Pic 1 - It's referred to as a "hip ring," but it's an articulated harness based on your measurements and the ring is not necessarily on your hip. Please look at the heads down picture on the skydivewings page where his articulation ring is placed. http://www.skydivewings.com/products.htm Pic 2 - RSL's Fine Pic 3 - Chest strap looks perfect. Like others have said, fill it up first, then check it out.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #11 April 7, 2006 Oh yeah, cheers you guys. Just me with too much time on my hands over thinking things and making up problems that, I guess, just dont exist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,483 #12 April 7, 2006 Better to ask questions and be wrong, than to not ask questions and be wrong. Enjoy the new rig.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MrHixxx 0 #13 April 8, 2006 1. The geometry of the Wings harness is a little different from other mfgs. It is a little higher and more forward than some, but this makes for an extremely comfortable rig under canopy. 2. RSL looks clean. Keep in mind there must be enough slack present so that when you are saddled under canopy the main risers do not pull it off the velcro in the lanyard's channel. Furthermore, you do not want it under anything on the rig that it could hangup on in a cutaway. 3.The chest strap is long because many jumpers loosen it under canopy (with the slider collapsed behind head) to flatten the canopy out more and make it fly better. You will learn more about this as you progress. Enjoy your new Wings, Hixxxdeath,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #14 April 8, 2006 PIC 1 - "Hip ring" is a bit of a misnomer. Sandy Reid's (the guy who holds patents on ringed harnesses) formula has the "hip ring" covering the iliac crest (upper edge of your pelvis). Wings' harness formula mounts those rings slightly higher. PIC 2 - RSLs are supposed to have a little slack where they attach to risers. PIC 3 - extra long chest straps are fashionable these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #15 April 8, 2006 From the pictures, everything looks good! As for the 'long' chest strap, it appears to be within guidelines. As previously mentioned, get the parachutes packed in it. You'll notice a difference. When the day comes to sell it, the buyer, may have a larger chest. The chest strap, does not appear too long. As was suggested, cinch it up, to where you like it for jumping, fold it back under and stow with the elastic keeper. Just get it packed-up, jump it and have fun! BTW... nice rig! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #16 April 9, 2006 Do not get your chest strap shortened. Just fold it and put it under the elastic for now. Why? When you start jumping a little higher performance stuff, you'll thank yourself again and again for having a longer chest strap.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy_Copland 0 #17 April 10, 2006 Scoop you bastard, i know your ball game! Finding any excuse to post pictures of your lovely wings container, kiss my hairy bean bag!1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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atsaubrey 0 #2 April 7, 2006 do you have the leg straps cinched down? can't tell form the pic."GOT LEAD?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #3 April 7, 2006 They are done up as if was jumping. Pulling the legstraps uncomfortably tighter doesn't seem to move the hip ring at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mostly_Harmless 0 #4 April 7, 2006 I am no expert but your RSL looks fine and your chest trap looks fine too. You just need to fold it back under the spandex band. Just ask your rigger when you drop it off to have the canopies put in, it's not hard._________________________________________ www.myspace.com/termvelocity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #5 April 7, 2006 QuoteOK, its not got any canopies in it yet and obviously that will effect things slightly but having stuffed it with assorted stuff to pack it out I have few questions about the harness. PIC 3 - Ridiculously long chest strap. (sorry for my poor aim with camera) Is this just a case of getting local rigger to shorten it? Having the chest strap shortened is easy, BUT don't do anything until the rig is completely filled out (with canopies) and you have jumped it for a while. You may find a reason to keep the extra. And making it longer is much harder than shortening it (or leaving it along). Just my $.02 JAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #6 April 7, 2006 You are going to loosen that chest strap when it has canopies and perhaps pull down the leg straps. It's a bit hard to tell without the reserve in there. The canopies will pull the rig up over your back more and it will sit slightly lower on your butt. You may have to shorten your chest strap a bit, but most people like to loosen them up under canopy. I like mine a bit long for that reason. The RSL looks clean to me. I would say pack it up. But if you are not saticfied with the fit at that point contact your dealer before you jump it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #7 April 7, 2006 Firstly .....I forgive you for copying my colour scheme ... I found the same.....hip rings 'slightly' higher than you would expect.....I spoke with others who said the same....its the design of the container and just takes a bit to get used to.....on the positive side it 'aids' holding the holding the rig tighter to your body......therefore not so much movement of the container on your back during (particularly) freeflying. RSL looks like an RSL.....whats your concern here...? Chest strap looks fine.....just fold the excess and stow under a bungee....... As you explore canopy flight more....you will want to 'adjust' your chest strap after opening....helping to spread the risers and giving the canopy a more efficient flying shape.... Nice rig.....flying this weekend....? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #8 April 7, 2006 Darren... Well I bought your old jumpsuit so I had to get gear to match. By the way its sporting some mighty fine grass stains at the moment.. Thank god for the padded knees and arse! Sadly not. Funds are tight as been out of work *cue violins* and haven't renewed my criminally priced BPA membership. Might go down the DZ with my camera if weathers nice though and get some landing shots. Got new lens for my birthday! EDIT: I've seen your vids too, you'll really hate me when you see my helmet. Haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #9 April 7, 2006 eeeek....well just dont start stalking me or I will have to call the police....... hang on...police....you..... Let me know when you are jumping again......lets go do something ! Matching rigs , jumpsuits and helmets........it'll look like a team... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,483 #10 April 7, 2006 Pic 1 - It's referred to as a "hip ring," but it's an articulated harness based on your measurements and the ring is not necessarily on your hip. Please look at the heads down picture on the skydivewings page where his articulation ring is placed. http://www.skydivewings.com/products.htm Pic 2 - RSL's Fine Pic 3 - Chest strap looks perfect. Like others have said, fill it up first, then check it out.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #11 April 7, 2006 Oh yeah, cheers you guys. Just me with too much time on my hands over thinking things and making up problems that, I guess, just dont exist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,483 #12 April 7, 2006 Better to ask questions and be wrong, than to not ask questions and be wrong. Enjoy the new rig.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MrHixxx 0 #13 April 8, 2006 1. The geometry of the Wings harness is a little different from other mfgs. It is a little higher and more forward than some, but this makes for an extremely comfortable rig under canopy. 2. RSL looks clean. Keep in mind there must be enough slack present so that when you are saddled under canopy the main risers do not pull it off the velcro in the lanyard's channel. Furthermore, you do not want it under anything on the rig that it could hangup on in a cutaway. 3.The chest strap is long because many jumpers loosen it under canopy (with the slider collapsed behind head) to flatten the canopy out more and make it fly better. You will learn more about this as you progress. Enjoy your new Wings, Hixxxdeath,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #14 April 8, 2006 PIC 1 - "Hip ring" is a bit of a misnomer. Sandy Reid's (the guy who holds patents on ringed harnesses) formula has the "hip ring" covering the iliac crest (upper edge of your pelvis). Wings' harness formula mounts those rings slightly higher. PIC 2 - RSLs are supposed to have a little slack where they attach to risers. PIC 3 - extra long chest straps are fashionable these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #15 April 8, 2006 From the pictures, everything looks good! As for the 'long' chest strap, it appears to be within guidelines. As previously mentioned, get the parachutes packed in it. You'll notice a difference. When the day comes to sell it, the buyer, may have a larger chest. The chest strap, does not appear too long. As was suggested, cinch it up, to where you like it for jumping, fold it back under and stow with the elastic keeper. Just get it packed-up, jump it and have fun! BTW... nice rig! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #16 April 9, 2006 Do not get your chest strap shortened. Just fold it and put it under the elastic for now. Why? When you start jumping a little higher performance stuff, you'll thank yourself again and again for having a longer chest strap.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy_Copland 0 #17 April 10, 2006 Scoop you bastard, i know your ball game! Finding any excuse to post pictures of your lovely wings container, kiss my hairy bean bag!1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
BIGUN 1,483 #12 April 7, 2006 Better to ask questions and be wrong, than to not ask questions and be wrong. Enjoy the new rig.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrHixxx 0 #13 April 8, 2006 1. The geometry of the Wings harness is a little different from other mfgs. It is a little higher and more forward than some, but this makes for an extremely comfortable rig under canopy. 2. RSL looks clean. Keep in mind there must be enough slack present so that when you are saddled under canopy the main risers do not pull it off the velcro in the lanyard's channel. Furthermore, you do not want it under anything on the rig that it could hangup on in a cutaway. 3.The chest strap is long because many jumpers loosen it under canopy (with the slider collapsed behind head) to flatten the canopy out more and make it fly better. You will learn more about this as you progress. Enjoy your new Wings, Hixxxdeath,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #14 April 8, 2006 PIC 1 - "Hip ring" is a bit of a misnomer. Sandy Reid's (the guy who holds patents on ringed harnesses) formula has the "hip ring" covering the iliac crest (upper edge of your pelvis). Wings' harness formula mounts those rings slightly higher. PIC 2 - RSLs are supposed to have a little slack where they attach to risers. PIC 3 - extra long chest straps are fashionable these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #15 April 8, 2006 From the pictures, everything looks good! As for the 'long' chest strap, it appears to be within guidelines. As previously mentioned, get the parachutes packed in it. You'll notice a difference. When the day comes to sell it, the buyer, may have a larger chest. The chest strap, does not appear too long. As was suggested, cinch it up, to where you like it for jumping, fold it back under and stow with the elastic keeper. Just get it packed-up, jump it and have fun! BTW... nice rig! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 April 9, 2006 Do not get your chest strap shortened. Just fold it and put it under the elastic for now. Why? When you start jumping a little higher performance stuff, you'll thank yourself again and again for having a longer chest strap.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #17 April 10, 2006 Scoop you bastard, i know your ball game! Finding any excuse to post pictures of your lovely wings container, kiss my hairy bean bag!1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
