billvon 3,120 #26 April 3, 2006 >Many canopies are cut with a computer controlled hot-knife or laser. >Pattern availability shouldn't be an issue. Well, you can't just scale everything by 10% and use the same patterns. Seam sizes don't change, for example, and reinforcing tape stays the same dimensions even as you shrink the canopy. Also, a canopy that you just change by 10% will not necessarily fly the same as the original. Look at the trouble that PD had with the larger Sabre sizes, or with the Katana 135/150. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #27 April 3, 2006 QuoteI don't know if I'm quite ready for the big jump down to a 150. That pretty much says it all. Hold off on a downsize until it's overdue instead of trying to sneak up on it. You want to be so good on what you have, that when you switch, it's a no-brainer. Some people do try to push it with a donwsize, and generally they waste their time being scared and adapting to their new wing. They end taking two steps back in their learning, and have to play catch up just to get back to where they were. Confindence in what you are doing will go a long way toward helping to make good choices, and stay ahead of your canopy while you're flying. The truth of the matter is, that all mfs measure canopies differently, so trying to step down a 1/2 size is tricky. You may end up with a canopy that measures smaller than PD, and combine that with your donwsize, now you're jumping a 152 sq ft canopy. Also, look for a Sabre2 170. Nothing like the Sabre you have now, better in every aspect. Hunt down a used one, and save your extra cash, and the pain in the ass you get trying to pack a brand new canopy. When your ready for the 150, maybe next year, you shouod be able to sell the 170 for the same cost as a used 150. Once you have downsized as far as you think you will, and you find a canopy youlike to fly, THEN order a new rig with a new canopy that matches the rig. You'll jump the canopy for years, and look good too. As it sits now, you won't even jump the 'new' out of a canopy before you're ready fopr a new one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmetz 0 #28 April 3, 2006 Thank you, everyone._________________________________________ "If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
breadhead 0 #29 April 4, 2006 27 replies and not one mentions the Springo by Parachutes De France??? It comes in size 110,120,140 and 160: http://www.parachutes-de-france.com/sources/html/clients/fr/produit_t/124.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #30 April 4, 2006 A Springo is not an option for him either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
breadhead 0 #31 April 4, 2006 QuoteA Springo is not an option for him either I was doing something very rare and very unusual: answering the question & sticking to the topic. Question: Does anyone make a 160-ish main? Answer: Yes, PdF does (among others). Sometimes life can be that simple you know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmetz 0 #32 April 4, 2006 APPLAUSE!! That is rare. All this time I thought it wasn't allowed or something. But I must say, there was SOME pretty good off-topic additional info given here._________________________________________ "If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #33 April 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteA Springo is not an option for him either I was doing something very rare and very unusual: answering the question & sticking to the topic. Question: Does anyone make a 160-ish main? Answer: Yes, PdF does (among others). Sometimes life can be that simple you know. Not sure it's really answering the question - we're talking about a canopy maker whose ads in Skydiving magazine include in decent sized lettering - 'not for sale in US' Since the poster is clearly within the US.... (Is the cost of TSO routine so high that it makes sense to write off such a huge piece of the market?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #34 April 4, 2006 Quote(Is the cost of TSO routine so high that it makes sense to write off such a huge piece of the market?) No. AFAIK, there's no TSO requirement for main canopies. The potential cost of lawsuits is so high that it makes sense to them to not sell their stuff in the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #35 April 4, 2006 As posted on here, Icarus makes a standard size 159 Safire2 as well as any size you want. Check out there stock list on their page www.Icaruscanopies.aero Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #36 April 4, 2006 ah, ok. I was really just wondering if this was another example of the odd pettiness between us and the French these days. 'You reject our fries and toast - you get no parachutes today!' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #37 April 4, 2006 yeah, I'm sure PdF didn't win any friends or new customers with that brilliant ad campaign... It's really a shame though since I've heard generally good things about their products such as the Techno reserve for instance.NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #38 April 10, 2006 Quote The openings either beat the shit out me, or take 1200 feet. The flare sucks; I've tried it several different ways, and it just feels worn out. Time to reline? Jurgen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmetz 0 #39 April 10, 2006 Just did 50 jumps ago. PD did it._________________________________________ "If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
