Richards 0 #26 January 24, 2008 Is it too late to switch sections (presuming someone else teaches it)? If not then switch. If it is something that only she teaches then drop, and take it next semester or the semester after when hopefully she wil have forgotten you. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #27 January 24, 2008 QuoteIt's not worth risking her GPA in a class where the grading is extremely subjective and the professor doesn't like her.I too agree... I took a photography class in my last year in College... I had very old equipment... as in it was manufactured in 1967... but it did require that I paid attention to what I was doing... to get results... Good Luck.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #28 January 24, 2008 I have received additional information that changes my position. If you don't need it to graduate and have time to drop; you should exercise that option. Having said that, (and this is my own personality flaw), I wouldn't just drop without discusing the whole situation with the Dean of the college. You see, for every person in a position of authority, there's always someone in authority over them. But again, that's just my way and it hasn't always served me well. = Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #29 January 24, 2008 Quote ...what should I do? 1. Eat a lot of mexican food, wash it down with lots of dark beer. 2. Poop in her book bag. 3. Profit.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #30 January 25, 2008 I gotta mostly agree with bigun. What you wrote about her doesn't suggest (to me) an insurmountable hurdle in the student/teacher relationship. Email is notoriously bad for communicating the body language and intonation clues in a message, so it wouldn't surprise me if her "get a note from your parents" was intended at least somewhat playfully. Also, for someone teaching any particular curriculum, the implication by an entry level student that they should be immediately employable in the industry could be taken as somewhat of an insult, as it discredits the middle, upper level, and ancilliary topics they teach as unnecessary or a waste. I'm not particularly amenable to letting my skydiving students skip parts of my instruction just because they think they're good enough to not need my help. Also, getting notes for a missed class from a fellow student is a perfectly reasonable expectation. To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if your emotions are fueling the fire. I suggest you play nice with her for a week and see if things improve. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #31 January 25, 2008 Quote there's also a website where you can rate college professors. http://ratemyprofessors.com/index.jsp I'm of mixed opinion on these sites. Students are customers these days. OTOH, easiest and most effective way to get an excellent review there (& in the evaluations most universities do internally) is to give everyone "A"s, whether they deserve it or not. Pressure to grade inflate? Absoutely! If one is an adjunct prof, renewal of one's contract may depend on "good" evaluations, If one is non-tenured prof, teaching evaluations are a small portion of consideration for promotion & pay raises. Rarely are there any tangible negative consequences if an instructor does grade inflate and few to no positive incentives for an instructor to not grade inflate. (Ethics is another thing.) When I t.a.'d as a grad student, I remember one written comment from end of semester evalauation (actually still have it ... somewhere): "She's the John Wayne of chemistry t.a.'s." Wasn't quite sure whether that was supposed to be a good thing or not? The student did give me good numerical scores ... /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #32 January 25, 2008 Quote I have received additional information that changes my position. If you don't need it to graduate and have time to drop; you should exercise that option. Having said that, (and this is my own personality flaw), I wouldn't just drop without discusing the whole situation with the Dean of the college. You see, for every person in a position of authority, there's always someone in authority over them. But again, that's just my way and it hasn't always served me well. = Yeah - but you could just walk up and say - I WANT AN A!!! and she would be scared and give you one.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #33 January 25, 2008 i just wish i had looked at that site last week before i turned in paper for sociology. appairently my prof is a screaming liberal with little use for opinions that don't agree with his. had i known that, i would have toaken my paper in a different direction. oh well. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #34 January 25, 2008 QuoteQuotei just wish i had looked at that site last week before i turned in paper for sociology. appairently my prof is a screaming liberal with little use for opinions that don't agree with his. had i known that, i would have toaken my paper in a different direction. oh well. Have you neverheard the golden rule with activist professors? Every thing you write must confirm their beleifs. I had a communications prof who was a real bitch (hated men, capitalism, heterosexuality and the consumption of meat by anyone). I started off writing in accordance with my views and it did not pay off. When I had a "enlightenment" and suddenly wrote like a vegetarian, man-hating lesbian (tough role playing for a guy) and geared all my papers to what she wanted to hear my grades went up. At the end she commented on what a great guy I was even though she initialy despised me. People like that are petty. Avoid the battle and agree with them. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #35 January 25, 2008 Quote"She's the John Wayne of chemistry t.a.'s." Wasn't quite sure whether that was supposed to be a good thing or not? It's a good thing... Strict, but fair. Strong-willed; but receptive. Even-tempered; unless provoked Trusts one who'll have a drink with them; but won't trust one who can't hold their liquor. If you ain't gonna respect your elders; then by-God respect your betters.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC07 0 #36 January 25, 2008 Write a letter to her superior describing your situation and the way you've been treated. Keep it professional and non-whiny - keep to the facts. Hell, I'd take the letter all the way up the chain. If someone at the school cares about students learning, SOMEONE should pay attention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moodyskydiver 0 #37 January 25, 2008 QuoteEmail is notoriously bad for communicating the body language and intonation clues in a message, so it wouldn't surprise me if her "get a note from your parents" was intended at least somewhat playfully. She wasnt joking.She said flat out that it was stated in her syllabus and was required.Also let me clarify that everything said with the exception of the note requirement was done in person.So I read her tone and voice inflection very clearly. QuoteAlso, for someone teaching any particular curriculum, the implication by an entry level student that they should be immediately employable in the industry could be taken as somewhat of an insult, as it discredits the middle, upper level, and ancilliary topics they teach as unnecessary or a waste. I tried to show her my work to get her professional opinion on taking the intern level position job (ie NOT professional or higher level) at the paper and she refused to look at it.So she didnt even give me a chance to show her what my skill level was.I told her I didnt need the credits and was just excited to be in a photo class b/c it was my hobby and she was still a bitch. QuoteAlso, getting notes for a missed class from a fellow student is a perfectly reasonable expectation. Getting notes from another student wasnt the problem.I got those.But even the other students are saying they dont understand the darkroom procedures b/c she rushed through them so fast.So the things I need to know for darkroom procedure needs to come from her so I get it right b/c the chemical mixing and such is very important. Quote To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if your emotions are fueling the fire. I suggest you play nice with her for a week and see if things improve. I'll play nice for a week,but my time frame is limited b/c every day I spend in her class is that much less I'll receive as a tuition refund for dropping by a certain date in the semester.And as for the suggestion to change sections or profs:I cant.Shes the only photog. prof and theres only one section. I do admit,my emotions play a part in this.But this is a hobby and something I'm passionate about so how can I not be emotional about it?If someone called you an unprofessional or bad skydiver w/o ever seeing you fly wouldnt you be a bit upset?Sorry, just my opinion. "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #38 January 25, 2008 Drop it. There is no way to please this teacher, she has made that clear. It isn't required, and your GPA is at stake. Drop it quick, then write a letter to the department head.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moodyskydiver 0 #39 January 25, 2008 Quote Write a letter to her superior describing your situation and the way you've been treated. Keep it professional and non-whiny - keep to the facts. With this prof I wouldnt know where to begin with writing a letter to her superiors.Everyone in the class is clueless on darkroom procedures b/c she flew through them so quickly and then left saying "ok now you do it." leaving no room for questions etc. and the Photography II students say shes never around for help.Lets not forget that her son is in our class and she is already making it clear who's getting an A there.But as for my own experience with her what would I say other than she was rude and uncooperative?How would I explain my situation stated in the OP without sounding "whiny"? Quote Hell, I'd take the letter all the way up the chain. If someone at the school cares about students learning, SOMEONE should pay attention. Well I just found out that one of my favorite teachers from high school (who was one of my ROTC instructors and loved me) is on the college's Board of Directors. "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #40 January 25, 2008 QuoteHow would I explain my situation stated in the OP without sounding "whiny"? Stick to only the facts, not your opinion.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #41 January 25, 2008 Quotewhat to do with a bitch prof?( Set her up on a blind date with waltappel. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #42 January 25, 2008 Fuck her in the assDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #43 January 25, 2008 Quote Quote what to do with a bitch prof?( Set her up on a blind date with waltappel. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moodyskydiver 0 #44 January 26, 2008 Quote Fuck her in the ass uh...no.First off, I'm female and shes a bitch.As someone else stated, I agree:I wouldnt fuck her with someone else's stuff.Besides, I dont think she could take anything else up the ass b/c her broom is already firmly stuck there. "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #45 January 26, 2008 Quote Quote what to do with a bitch prof?( Set her up on a blind date with waltappel. I must admit, that in the sickest, most twisted, darkest, most fucked up depths of my demented mind, I kind of like that idea. But you're a sick fuck for thinking of it! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #46 January 28, 2008 why is that sick? I'm sure waltappel would be a perfect gentleman. at least for a little while. the fact that this professor is not a skydiver & has probably not read his posts is not my problem. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #47 January 28, 2008 Quote Quote Fuck her in the ass uh...no.First off, I'm female and shes a bitch.As someone else stated, I agree:I wouldnt fuck her with someone else's stuff.Besides, I dont think she could take anything else up the ass b/c her broom is already firmly stuck there. Superglue a buttplug to her chair . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #48 January 28, 2008 Quote Quote there's also a website where you can rate college professors. http://ratemyprofessors.com/index.jsp I'm of mixed opinion on these sites. no mixed opinion here, I hate it. Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #49 January 28, 2008 Quotei took a photo class in highschool and the teacher was an asshole, at least to the guys. he was pretty friendly with the females though. come to think of it, he was down right creepy. anyway, if you don't need it, drop the class but definitely let the right people know why you've dropped it. there's also a website where you can rate college professors. i'll see if i can find it. after a long and arduous search, i finally came across this thing called google, which led me to this: http://ratemyprofessors.com/index.jsp no matter what you decide, you can still write a review of her there. Entertaining site. My students even created a facebook group about me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #50 January 28, 2008 Use this on her as mouthwash, or douche. Heck you can use this on her in so many ways.http://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Ass-Fart-Spray/dp/B000OCEWGW/ref=pd_sbs_gro_title_3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
