floridadiver81 0 #1 February 1, 2008 Ok..brief background on this motor and tranny. The motor took on about half a gallon of water due to the driver at the time being a completely stupid blond. Total damage is 1 broke rod, bearings shattered, 1 inch hole in the front of the block and a spiderweb crack on the backside of the block, 8 bent valves in the head. Im thinking there is tranny damage also. So i started the engine removal process. Got everything out. I took the starter gear and flywheel off and put them back in the bell housing until i get a replacement motor. I manually turned it and its not spinning perfectly round. I took a video of it and put it online to help with the diagnosis. Any advice? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIDrxg8ej2w"Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #2 February 1, 2008 Mic it all out and make sure it's true/square and not out of round?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridadiver81 0 #3 February 1, 2008 um...i dont understand what you want me to do."Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 February 1, 2008 Quoteum...i dont understand what you want me to do. Measure it and make sure it's not warped or out of true...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dunesurfer 0 #5 February 1, 2008 I can't pull up your video. Is this an auto or manual trans? On a manual trans the input shaft is partially supported by a bushing or bearing in the end of the crankshaft, so it may seem to wobble under the conditions described. For an auto, the "snout" of the torque convertor is mainly supported by the crankshaft, not the bushing and oil pump drive in the trans. Edit to add: what you see may be normal when the engine is disconnected from the tranny Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #6 February 1, 2008 BillyVance is the tranny expert here....oh, just read the post-different subject, never mindYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #7 February 1, 2008 Is is a manual or an automatic tranny? If it's manual, it could just be that the clutch isn't alighned or if it's auto then it could be the torque converter, the flywheel or possibly the 1st motion (input) shaft that is bent. Normally, an engine sucking up water wont affect the tranny. Try taking off the flywheel and secure a sick on the bell housing so the end is against the input shaft so you can use it as a reference point, then see if the shaft spins true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridadiver81 0 #8 February 1, 2008 It is a manual. When i turned the crank when the tranny was still attached it turned fine. I just want to make sure everything is normal with the tranny before i put a new motor on in and install it. It took me being a novice about 9 hours in time to remove everything."Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #9 February 1, 2008 Did you align the clutch when you fitted the flywheel onto the tranny? If not, that's probably all it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dunesurfer 0 #10 February 1, 2008 It should be good to go then. The only real threat to the trans when submerged is rust. If you haven't done so already, check/change the gear oil in the trans, ditto for a differential if it is a rear wheel drive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #11 February 1, 2008 You need someone that Works on Cross Dressers?? Gotta agree, BV would be your best shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #12 February 1, 2008 If only I had a dollar for every YouTube search that mistakenly pulls up your video. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mwabd1 0 #13 February 1, 2008 When are you reinstalling the motor Jason? I am sitting here doing nothing on the west side and would be willing to lend a hand. I am leaving for tampa sunday but will be back late friday. Oh and saturday is reserved for Palatka, but if you are working on it today I can help out........I hereby reject your reality and instead choose to insert my own! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridadiver81 0 #14 February 1, 2008 I wont be installing the motor till i get it..lol. I wont have the money to get one for another 3 weeks. I have to make sure all the bills are paid before i sink money into my car. On a side note...i wasnt aware there were any more jumpers here in jax..lol. i need more local friends anyway. Ill let you know when i get the motor. pm me your phone number."Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridadiver81 0 #15 February 1, 2008 Quote If only I had a dollar for every YouTube search that mistakenly pulls up your video. care to enlighten me on this comment?"Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #16 February 1, 2008 Quote BillyVance is the tranny expert here....oh, just read the post-different subject, never mind I just knew something like this was gonna get posted. You bastard. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #17 February 1, 2008 Quote You bastard. Since I am an out of wedlock child, you're gonna have to work harder to insult meYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #18 February 1, 2008 Quote Quote You bastard. Since I am an out of wedlock child, you're gonna have to work harder to insult me You Fat Bastard. Somebody's got to take over that title... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #19 February 1, 2008 Quote You Fat Bastard. Somebody's got to take over that title... Truely, very truely----I am not worthyYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #20 February 1, 2008 Quote Quote You Fat Bastard. Somebody's got to take over that title... Truely, very truely----I am not worthy Well.... quite possibly that insult should be retired. Shrek was the only one I could identify as that. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #21 February 2, 2008 QuoteOk..brief background on this motor and tranny. The motor took on about half a gallon of water due to the driver at the time being a completely stupid blond. Total damage is 1 broke rod, bearings shattered, 1 inch hole in the front of the block and a spiderweb crack on the backside of the block, 8 bent valves in the head. Im thinking there is tranny damage also. So i started the engine removal process. Got everything out. I took the starter gear and flywheel off and put them back in the bell housing until i get a replacement motor. I manually turned it and its not spinning perfectly round. I took a video of it and put it online to help with the diagnosis. Any advice? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIDrxg8ej2w honestly, I have never seen anyone put a flywheel back on a trans that was removed to check to see if it was round like you did in this video. I think you are looking to far into things.. did it start fine when you turned over the starter? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #22 February 2, 2008 Quote Quote If only I had a dollar for every YouTube search that mistakenly pulls up your video. care to enlighten me on this comment? usually when people search the internet for tranny videos, they are looking for something else. google should enlighten you. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #23 February 2, 2008 Quote Quote Quote If only I had a dollar for every YouTube search that mistakenly pulls up your video. care to enlighten me on this comment? usually when people search the internet for tranny videos, they are looking for something else. google should enlighten you. Tranny tech: http://marcibowers.com/grs/history.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #24 February 2, 2008 Geesh..now we have to find gender-bender technicians to keep you happy?!?! I swear. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floridadiver81 0 #25 February 2, 2008 Quote honestly, I have never seen anyone put a flywheel back on a trans that was removed to check to see if it was round like you did in this video. I think you are looking to far into things.. did it start fine when you turned over the starter? I only put it back on there to get it out of the way and not take up any more room in the shed other than the room i have already taken up....which right now is about half of it with car parts. The reason why im concerned that i messed something up in the transmission is when the rod snapped i was doing about 20 mph and i was shifting from 1st to 2nd gear. The clutch was still in when it popped and the motor completely seized because the bottom end of the rod wedged itself against the cylinder wall. Im thinking the sudden stop of the crank might have bent something on the transmission considering it went from roughly 25 mph to complete crank stop in less than a second."Age has absolutely nothing to do with knowledge, learning, respect, attitude, or personality." -yardhippie "Fight the air, and the air will kick your ass!!! "-Specialkaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
