jumper03 0 #1 March 27, 2006 Would anyone happen to have a pdf of the flexon packing manual? I'm guessing it is similar to the Talon of the same era but I'd rather make sure. JumpScars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #2 March 27, 2006 Well... you used to be able to go here: http://www.parachuteriggers.com/ ... and get it for free, but now they want money... ... plus their website is under reconstruction... Anyway, why don't you call up Rigging Innovations and see if they'll email you one? Rigging Innovations, Inc. 4900 N. Tumbleweed Road, Bldg. 1, P.O. Box 86 Eloy, AZ 85231 Tel. 520.466.2655 FAX: 520.466.2656 http://www.rigginginnovations.com/ http://www.rigginginnovations.com/manuals.htm Either that, or I'll be someone will be along here that has it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #3 March 27, 2006 Careful which version of the Talon manual you use - when packing a Flexon. The original Talon (pre 1994 with 6 reserve flaps) borders on useless - when packing Flexons. Far wiser to use the Talon 2 manual (published in 1997) as it has 90 percent commonality with Flexon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #4 March 27, 2006 QuoteWould anyone happen to have a pdf of the flexon packing manual? I'm guessing it is similar to the Talon of the same era but I'd rather make sure. Jump _____________________________________ According to the title on the cover of my Talon - 2 instructions it says "Talon / Flexon". The instructions are for both the Talon - 2 and the Flexon. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #5 March 27, 2006 Parachutes Australia have the Talon2 manual on their website. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 March 28, 2006 PM sent.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #7 March 29, 2006 QuotePM sent. Terry, if you have a .pdf of the Felxon manual, can I get it too please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #8 March 29, 2006 QuoteParachutes Australia have the Talon2 manual on their website. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just use the Talon 2 manual from the PA website. It shows an easier way to pack, far better than the Flexon manual. Heck! The main reason I wrote the Talon 2 manual was to correct all the gaffs in the Flexon manual ... incorporate all the packing tricks we learned. The only significant difference is the tuck tabs on the Flexon shoulders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumper03 0 #9 March 29, 2006 QuoteQuotePM sent. Terry, if you have a .pdf of the Felxon manual, can I get it too please? Oh! Oh! what about calling RI???? On a serious note - I really want the flexon manual to clear up some confusion about the RSL that is on this thing. Instead of just a ring on the ripcord cable, it's a straight pin type deal - looks like a sigma reserve pin, but sharp on the end! And I don't see any where to stick it other than just through the fabric. So at first glance something doesn't look right. I just want to make sure.Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ZigZagMarquis 9 #10 March 29, 2006 Jmpr3... the "call RI" task was left to you... the student... to do... Anyway... I'm about 99% certain that the RSL set-up on the Flexon, Talon 94 and Talon 2 are pretty much all the same... as in... the reserve rip cord comes out of the hard cable housing (under the left shoulder tuck)... through the ring on the business end of the RSL... and continues between fabric comprising the #4 (top) reserve flap to the reserve closing loop... i.e. NO guide rings. Remember... there is an arguement out there in the rigging-verse that guide rings were necessary back in the days of Cones & Pins when using a RSL to "guide" things if the RSL actuated the reserve... you needed the reserve rip cord pins to be pulled along the axis of the cable and not perpendicular, which, if done, could bend the pin in the cone trapping it there. The arguement continues that today, with soft reserve closing loops (i.e. no more cones) that the guide rings for an RSL are not totally necessary anymore, but are still used on numerous rigs "because that's what's always been done & they don't seem to hurt." Anyway, I digress,... but that's just one arguement... take it with a grain if you disagree... * puts on flame suit * Anyway... good on you Jmpr3 for wanting to dig up the no kiddin' Flexon manual. That's the right thing to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
riggerrob 643 #8 March 29, 2006 QuoteParachutes Australia have the Talon2 manual on their website. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just use the Talon 2 manual from the PA website. It shows an easier way to pack, far better than the Flexon manual. Heck! The main reason I wrote the Talon 2 manual was to correct all the gaffs in the Flexon manual ... incorporate all the packing tricks we learned. The only significant difference is the tuck tabs on the Flexon shoulders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #9 March 29, 2006 QuoteQuotePM sent. Terry, if you have a .pdf of the Felxon manual, can I get it too please? Oh! Oh! what about calling RI???? On a serious note - I really want the flexon manual to clear up some confusion about the RSL that is on this thing. Instead of just a ring on the ripcord cable, it's a straight pin type deal - looks like a sigma reserve pin, but sharp on the end! And I don't see any where to stick it other than just through the fabric. So at first glance something doesn't look right. I just want to make sure.Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #10 March 29, 2006 Jmpr3... the "call RI" task was left to you... the student... to do... Anyway... I'm about 99% certain that the RSL set-up on the Flexon, Talon 94 and Talon 2 are pretty much all the same... as in... the reserve rip cord comes out of the hard cable housing (under the left shoulder tuck)... through the ring on the business end of the RSL... and continues between fabric comprising the #4 (top) reserve flap to the reserve closing loop... i.e. NO guide rings. Remember... there is an arguement out there in the rigging-verse that guide rings were necessary back in the days of Cones & Pins when using a RSL to "guide" things if the RSL actuated the reserve... you needed the reserve rip cord pins to be pulled along the axis of the cable and not perpendicular, which, if done, could bend the pin in the cone trapping it there. The arguement continues that today, with soft reserve closing loops (i.e. no more cones) that the guide rings for an RSL are not totally necessary anymore, but are still used on numerous rigs "because that's what's always been done & they don't seem to hurt." Anyway, I digress,... but that's just one arguement... take it with a grain if you disagree... * puts on flame suit * Anyway... good on you Jmpr3 for wanting to dig up the no kiddin' Flexon manual. That's the right thing to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites