D22369 0 #1 February 23, 2008 Is this a real project? Am so tired I cant recall what the website is to check for phony stories... http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/lucifer-project.html Scary shit. RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 February 23, 2008 Its just a different take on 2001 and 2010... in which mass was being added to Jupiter to cause it to go critical and create a new sun in the solar system. In that case Europa would be the beneficiary of the new sun. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_Odyssey_Two As Jupiter is about to nova, Bowman returns to Discovery to give HAL a last order to carry out. HAL begins repeatedly broadcasting the message "ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE." The creation of the new star, which Earth eventually names "Lucifer", destroys Discovery entirely. However, HAL's artificial intelligence is removed from Discovery's computer core and transformed into the same kind of lifeform as David Bowman, and becomes his companion Interesting note [edit] Epilogue: 20,001 The book ends with a brief epilogue, which takes place in AD 20,001. By this time, the Europans have evolved into a species that has developed a primitive civilization. They are not described in detail, though they are said to have “tendril”-like limbs. They regard the star Lucifer (formerly the planet Jupiter) as their primary Sun, referring to Sol as “The Cold Sun”. Though their settlements are concentrated primarily in the hemisphere of Europa which is constantly bathed in Lucifer's rays, some Europans have begun in recent generations to explore the Farside, the hemisphere facing away from Lucifer, which is still covered in ice. There they may witness the spectacle of night, unknown on the other side of Europa, when the Cold Sun sets. The Europans who explore the Farside have been carefully observing the night sky and have begun to develop a mythology based on their observations. They believe (correctly) that Lucifer was not always there. They believe that the Cold Sun was its brother and was condemned to march around the sky for a crime. The Europans also see three other major bodies in the sky. One seems to be constantly engulfed in fire, and the other two have lights on them which are gradually spreading. These three bodies are the moons Io, Callisto, and Ganymede, the latter two of which are presently being colonized by humans. Apparently, humans have been attempting to explore Europa ever since Lucifer was created in 2010. However, none of these attempts have been successful. Every spaceship or probe that has attempted to land on Europa has been destroyed in the atmosphere. The debris from every ship and probe falls to the surface of the planet, and the debris from some of the first ships to be destroyed is venerated by the Europans, in a manner similar to the Cargo Cults of Earth. Finally, there is a Monolith on the planet, which is worshipped more by the Europans than anything else. The Europans assume (correctly) that the Monolith is what keeps humans at bay. Dave Bowman and HAL 9000 lie dormant in this Monolith. The Monolith is the guardian of Europa, and will continue to prevent contact between Humans and Europans for as long as it sees fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #3 February 24, 2008 Interesting read. I'm not a real fan of all the Masonic and Ancient Egyptian implications he tries to make, but I must admit my interest is piqued by the proposition. But, this is also the part of me that is piqued by sci-fi and Star Trek characters seducing green women with big space-boobies. Is 72 pounds of fissionable material really enough to make it happen? He seems to think so; I'm not sure but really am not one to postulate since this stuff is WAY over my head. I guess we'll just have to wait for July to see what happens! Elvisio "I'll be wearing my SPF 1000" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites