GQ_jumper 4 #1 February 21, 2008 We're 1 week away from the next UFC so I figured it was time to kick this one up. This fight has really interested me, Silva the new big thing in the middleweight division who is considered by many to be the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world against Hendo, a champion whose ability transcends weght classes(just ask Wanderlei, Sobral, Nogueira, etc. etc.). Starting with Silva, he is on a 5 fight win streak, he's undefeated in the octagon, he's walked through Leben, outstruck Franklin and submitted Lutter. His strikes have pinpoint accuracy, and insane speed, one thing they do lack however is one punch knockout power, Silva doesn't end fights with one punch, he picks people apart with a series of strikes utilizing all of his weapons. His ability to utilize the clinch is top-notch and considered by many to be second to none, he grabs the back of his opponents head and picks them apart with knees, Rich Franklin was defenseless from this position. His takedown defense isn't too bad, I wouldn't rank it up there with the likes of Chuck or Penn but he can stay on his feet if he wants against most opponents. Once on the ground he has a very underrated BJJ game, he holds a black belt under Minotauro, who probably has one of the top, if not THE top BJJ pedigrees in the sport, so coming up under that man will solidify anyones ground game. Two places we have not seen Sliva tested however, we have never seen him go into the championship rounds, so thus far no one knows exactly how deep this guys gas tank is, another place he hasn't been touched, his chin. Silva's head movements are insane, I'm sure all the hardcore UFC fans will remember when he dropped his hands against Rich and just started dodging shots, didn't try and cover up, just taunted Rich. He moves very effectively and is therefore very hard to hit, we haven't seen someone really give him a good chin check yet, so that is definitely suspect. Overall Silva is one hell of a standup fighter who creates an awkward dilema for anyone who squares up with him, he has an unparalleled Muay Thai game and his BJJ is spot on, Franklin is a top notch stirker but Silva just does everything Franklin does better, Silva has the tools to stay on top of the pack for a long time. Looking at Hendo, his striking ability has definitely come a long way since his early bouts against the likes of Carlos Newton, Dan isn't known for throwing laser beams straight down the pipe like GSP, but his haymakers and overhand rights are packed with TNT. He can put a mans lights out with a left jab(Wanderlei!). Looking at this from a purely striking standpoint this is what most people would call the classic boxer vs puncher matchup. Henderson doesn't have a Muay Thai clinch per se, but he is a VERY seasoned Greco-Roman wrestler, and anyone who knows a thing or two about Greco-Roman guys will tell you that their ability to control an opponent in the clinch is second to none. that style of wrestling focuses on the upper body body control, so once it reaches this point Dan is well versed. Looking at his takedowns, I seriously doubt Silva has anything to offer that wouldforce Dan to reach into his takedown defense aresnal, on the other hand, Henderson's takedown ability is unparalleled, once again he will decide where the fight is fought or lost. Once on the ground Hendo isn't really known for a strong BJJ game, he might not be the best submission guy in the game but his submission defense is finely tuned. Only two me in his entire career have slipped a submission on this man, and both their names happen to end in Nogueira, and both of them ave a distinct size advantage. I wouldn't consider a submission loss to either of those men to be a knock on anybody. Henderson will also have the ability to control the position on the ground, his wrestling skills have nuetralized the submission games of Carlos Newton, Minotauro(in their first fight), Renato Sobral, and Renzo Gracie to name a few. Dan the man also posseses a chin that is made out a material as to you can get to titanium, he has NEVER been knocked out or TKO'd, Rampage admitted after their battle that Dan's face beat up his hands, he hit Dan with more shots than any human being should be able to endure and couldn't stop him, in 2 meetings Wanderlei has never been able to knock him out either. Dan has also displayed his conditioning in the later rounds and has shown he can go the distance. In 28 pro bouts Dan Henderson has defeated a who's who in the world of MMA, has never been knocked out, and has only been submitted by two of the top submission fighters in the world, he is largely unerestimated in every fight he goes into and my opinion on his loss to Rampage is that he asn't used to fighting in the cage, Quinton never "scored" a takedown, it was always Dan giving it up by tripping on the fence and not knowing how to effectively use it yet. So in striking, we have a somewhat even matchup, they have different styles which are both equally as dangerous and Dan happens to be one of the only people in the divison who isn't afraid to go toe to toe with Silva, which could work either way. Silva's big weapon in the clinch is going to basically be completely nuetralized by Henderson, this is the area where all the big Silva fans think the fight is going to end, but I see an Olympic Greco-Roman resume that says otherwise. Silva has yet to show us his ability to scramble to get back to his feet when put down so unless he has something up his sleeve Henderson is going to decide when the fight goes to the ground and how long it stays there. Once on the ground Silva's BJJ is basically going to be silenced by Dan's dominance, and strength. And if this fight goes the distance we can only assume that it is going to work in Dan's favor, unless something goes bad with Dan's weight cutting, but this is his normal weightclass so that shouldnt be an issue. In the end I think Dan's iron chin, heavy hands, dominance in the clinch and submission defense are going to pull it out. I'm going to go with Henderson by KO late in the 4th. However this thing unwinds its going to be a war, Dan has aready solidified himself as a future hall of famer and a legend in the sport, Anderson is just the next test to prove why he is a top 3 worlwide ranked fighter.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chinagirl 0 #2 February 21, 2008 Bitch...you beat me to it. As much as I am "secretly" in love with Anderson Silva, I have to admit, Henderson is going to be a viable opponent. I didn't think his defeat from Rampage was very damaging considering that Rampage knocked out Liddell twice and as I stated BEFORE...the PRIDE guys have some getting used to in the Octagon. I am rooting for Silva but as far as their fighting style, I think Henderson will win this one. I am a fan of Henderson and had hoped he would defeat Rampage so a win in this fight would be the redemption he needs. ~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #3 February 21, 2008 I think they will knock each other out simultaneously and lose the belt to each other. Then, they'll rematch and silva will have some of Hendos code written on him and he'll be able to duplicate himself. In the end hendo will win by sacrificing himself but Silva will already have overloaded the octagon with his virus. Ok, I guess I had to get that out of my system. I have been tr ying to put UFC 82 out of mny head because oits the last weekend I will live in vegas and I'll miss the event. I think its going to be such a great fight that It's damn near impossible to call.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #4 February 21, 2008 Damn.Now that we both replied I guess this thread will die.Edit: Val, you out there? My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chinagirl 0 #5 February 21, 2008 Sad is it not? There has to be more UFC fans on here... Hey you peeps from the ATL...I'm ready to take the bets. I'm calling Henderson!! James? David?~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #6 February 21, 2008 they say one percent of one percent of society skydive more than once. I say one percent of them watch UFC. LOL Don't ask me who "THEY" is.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #7 February 21, 2008 Quote Edit: Val, you out there? Haha! You know it! It's going to be SUCH a great fight! I'm thinking Silva will win it, though. I'm actually looking forward to many of the fights that night. I wish I would've gone to it (I went to the other two in Ohio and had SO much fun.)There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #8 February 21, 2008 Licking Dana's head is fun? lol My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #9 February 21, 2008 It's going to be SUCH a great fight! I'm thinking Silva will win it, though. I'm actually looking forward to many of the fights that night. I wish I would've gone to it (I went to the other two in Ohio and had SO much fun.) Quote I don't know, my little internal fight predictor is pulling hard for Hendo, if Silva should somehow pll this off it is going to be by decision because the judges put more of an emphasis on strikes and not takedowns and ground control. I was the only person out of everyone I know who called Mir to win, I called Gonzaga over Cro Cop, GSP over Hughes, I've been on a roll this year. I predicted parts of the Liddell/silva fight right but missed on the outcome. I think Dan is just a very bad matchup for Silva stylistically, he has what it takes to nuetralize Silva's strengths, especially the bulletproof chinOn a different UFC topic, I've been catching all the early news and in case you guys and gals haven't heard, Chuck is in line to take on Mauricio, that's a big order for both those men, Wandy is being offered a fight against Jardine but is holding out to decide whether or not he wants to drop down to middleweight. I have a crazy feeling the outcome of this fight is going to carry a lot of weight in that decision and open the door for Hendo/Wany III. Plus with Sherk comin off of suspension that one is going to be good, and the rematch with GSP and Serra(by Matt) sold out in 20 minutes, that's gonna be huge. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #10 February 22, 2008 Hendo. 5th round sub or tko Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #11 February 22, 2008 5th round sub or tko Quote Hendo only has one submission victory on his resume and Silvahas proven that he can eat a well-known submission artist for lunch. I'll stick with the KO or TKO History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #12 February 22, 2008 Quote 5th round sub or tko Quote Hendo only has one submission victory on his resume and Silvahas proven that he can eat a well-known submission artist for lunch. I'll stick with the KO or TKO Spider hasn't been tested in a long time. Hendo is going to give him everything he can handle and then some. When that epic battle hits round five, I say Hendo will come out of left field with a sub on an unsuspecting and thoroughly exhausted Spider. That or just catch him with the KTFO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chinagirl 0 #13 February 22, 2008 Quote Licking Dana's head is fun? lol I'll lick his head any time of the day...both of 'em! That man is a genius seeing what he's done to promote UFC.~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #14 February 22, 2008 I'll lick his head any time of the day...both of 'em! That man is a genius seeing what he's done to promote UFC. Quote The man is a slimy asshole who is alienating all his biggest name fighters and turns his back on his loyal "employees". Dana White needs to go.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #15 February 22, 2008 QuoteI'll lick his head any time of the day...both of 'em! That man is a genius seeing what he's done to promote UFC. Quote The man is a slimy asshole who is alienating all his biggest name fighters and turns his back on his loyal "employees". Dana White needs to go. yea, It sure seems to be biting him in the ass now. Tito is leaving after his next fight. Randy left. I guess we'll see whos next. Did you know tito has only received $200,000 for his last few fights? they made millions, hundreds of million off him and 200,000 is all he got. (I'm sure he got some bonus' but 200,000 is insulting for someone who is in his league.)My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chinagirl 0 #16 February 22, 2008 The man is a slimy asshole who is alienating all his biggest name fighters and turns his back on his loyal "employees". Dana White needs to go. Maybe...but you have to admit, the match ups in the last 2 years have built much excitement in the sport. Same goes for the reality show. I don't like the recent dispute with Randy Couture either but I'll give credit where it's due.~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chinagirl 0 #17 February 22, 2008 Quote yea, It sure seems to be biting him in the ass now. Tito is leaving after his next fight. Randy left. I guess we'll see whos next. Did you know tito has only received $200,000 for his last few fights? they made millions, hundreds of million off him and 200,000 is all he got. (I'm sure he got some bonus' but 200,000 is insulting for someone who is in his league.) Yes, I worry when some of these great fighters leave UFC. I am not much of a fan of the other circuits. Have you guys seen EliteXC? I just saw the fight between Kimbo and Tank Abbott. Kimbo was pretty impressive but damn, those commentators suck ass!!! And the side shows...talk about BLING BLING!! ~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #18 February 22, 2008 is leaving after his next fight. Randy left. I guess we'll see whos next. Did you know tito has only received $200,000 for his last few fights? they made millions, hundreds of million off him and 200,000 is all he got. (I'm sure he got some bonus' but 200,000 is insulting for someone who is in his league.) Quote Actually Tito recieved 1.5M for his second Liddell fight from what I understand, I think I heard that directly from him. That's just one case though, like Tito and Randy both said, it's not about the money it's about the respect.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #19 February 22, 2008 I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Tito's was paid 200,000 for the fight. He made most of his money on merchandise. Team punishment. He admitted he got a bonus but on the howard stern show a few weeks ago he said he made 200,000 for the fight itself.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #20 February 22, 2008 I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Tito's was paid 200,000 for the fight. He made most of his money on merchandise. Team punishment. He admitted he got a bonus but on the howard stern show a few weeks ago he said he made 200,000 for the fight itself. Quote I must have been thinking about something else, that fight was in 06, I've been knocked in the head too many times since then History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #21 February 22, 2008 well, we could both be right. Tito's last fight wasn't with Chuck. He may have gotten 1.5mil for that fight. but even that is a slap in the face for two of the biggest names in UFC history. That had to be a cash cow (whatever the fuck that means) for the UFC.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chinagirl 0 #22 February 22, 2008 Quote I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Tito's was paid 200,000 for the fight. He made most of his money on merchandise. Team punishment. He admitted he got a bonus but on the howard stern show a few weeks ago he said he made 200,000 for the fight itself. Quote I must have been thinking about something else, that fight was in 06, I've been knocked in the head too many times since then Are we talking about his most recent fight with Rashad Evans? Not exactly the best fights I've seen...so, what warrants a good pay then? Granted Tito is a veteran and has been promoting UFC from the start, he was fighting Evans!! He's climbing up the ladder again... I don't want to sound like an ungrateful fan. I know these athletes work their ass off to prepare for each competition but compensation is a complicated process.~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #23 February 22, 2008 There are different amount for each fight. If the UFC KNOWS that the fans are gonna sell their own kids to buy tickets the fighters of the main event should get a cut. The cheapest ticket to see a live fight in Vegas is $500. That's fucking lunacy to me. So figure it this way. th ethe mandalay bay event center holds 10,000 people and the tickets were all sold at (i'll go half) $250 each that it 2,500,000 JUST IN LIVE TICKET SALES. Never mind the PPV (Tito quoted something like $100,000,000 who watched the fight live) Merchandise sales (who knows how much$$) and misc income. That was for his last fight. I beleive you were right when you said Rashad was his last fight. 200,000 seems cheap to a guy who fought since the compnay was wrecked. I hear the new signers are getting better deals. Why would they shit on old employees?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chinagirl 0 #24 February 22, 2008 QuoteThere are different amount for each fight. If the UFC KNOWS that the fans are gonna sell their own kids to buy tickets the fighters of the main event should get a cut. The cheapest ticket to see a live fight in Vegas is $500. That's fucking lunacy to me. So figure it this way. th ethe mandalay bay event center holds 10,000 people and the tickets were all sold at (i'll go half) $250 each that it 2,500,000 JUST IN LIVE TICKET SALES. Never mind the PPV (Tito quoted something like $100,000,000 who watched the fight live) Merchandise sales (who knows how much$$) and misc income. That was for his last fight. I beleive you were right when you said Rashad was his last fight. 200,000 seems cheap to a guy who fought since the compnay was wrecked. I hear the new signers are getting better deals. Why would they shit on old employees? I don't think they are shitting on old employees, but a contract is a contract. That's why you should renegotiate when the time comes. In addition, these seasoned veterans make so much more in sponsorship than the newcomers... All I am saying is there is two sides to every story and compensation IS complicated!!! 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jtval 0 #15 February 22, 2008 QuoteI'll lick his head any time of the day...both of 'em! That man is a genius seeing what he's done to promote UFC. Quote The man is a slimy asshole who is alienating all his biggest name fighters and turns his back on his loyal "employees". Dana White needs to go. yea, It sure seems to be biting him in the ass now. Tito is leaving after his next fight. Randy left. I guess we'll see whos next. Did you know tito has only received $200,000 for his last few fights? they made millions, hundreds of million off him and 200,000 is all he got. (I'm sure he got some bonus' but 200,000 is insulting for someone who is in his league.)My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chinagirl 0 #16 February 22, 2008 The man is a slimy asshole who is alienating all his biggest name fighters and turns his back on his loyal "employees". Dana White needs to go. Maybe...but you have to admit, the match ups in the last 2 years have built much excitement in the sport. Same goes for the reality show. I don't like the recent dispute with Randy Couture either but I'll give credit where it's due.~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chinagirl 0 #16 February 22, 2008 The man is a slimy asshole who is alienating all his biggest name fighters and turns his back on his loyal "employees". Dana White needs to go. Maybe...but you have to admit, the match ups in the last 2 years have built much excitement in the sport. Same goes for the reality show. I don't like the recent dispute with Randy Couture either but I'll give credit where it's due.~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chinagirl 0 #17 February 22, 2008 Quote yea, It sure seems to be biting him in the ass now. Tito is leaving after his next fight. Randy left. I guess we'll see whos next. Did you know tito has only received $200,000 for his last few fights? they made millions, hundreds of million off him and 200,000 is all he got. (I'm sure he got some bonus' but 200,000 is insulting for someone who is in his league.) Yes, I worry when some of these great fighters leave UFC. I am not much of a fan of the other circuits. Have you guys seen EliteXC? I just saw the fight between Kimbo and Tank Abbott. Kimbo was pretty impressive but damn, those commentators suck ass!!! And the side shows...talk about BLING BLING!! ~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #18 February 22, 2008 is leaving after his next fight. Randy left. I guess we'll see whos next. Did you know tito has only received $200,000 for his last few fights? they made millions, hundreds of million off him and 200,000 is all he got. (I'm sure he got some bonus' but 200,000 is insulting for someone who is in his league.) Quote Actually Tito recieved 1.5M for his second Liddell fight from what I understand, I think I heard that directly from him. That's just one case though, like Tito and Randy both said, it's not about the money it's about the respect.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #19 February 22, 2008 I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Tito's was paid 200,000 for the fight. He made most of his money on merchandise. Team punishment. He admitted he got a bonus but on the howard stern show a few weeks ago he said he made 200,000 for the fight itself.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #20 February 22, 2008 I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Tito's was paid 200,000 for the fight. He made most of his money on merchandise. Team punishment. He admitted he got a bonus but on the howard stern show a few weeks ago he said he made 200,000 for the fight itself. Quote I must have been thinking about something else, that fight was in 06, I've been knocked in the head too many times since then History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #21 February 22, 2008 well, we could both be right. Tito's last fight wasn't with Chuck. He may have gotten 1.5mil for that fight. but even that is a slap in the face for two of the biggest names in UFC history. That had to be a cash cow (whatever the fuck that means) for the UFC.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chinagirl 0 #22 February 22, 2008 Quote I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Tito's was paid 200,000 for the fight. He made most of his money on merchandise. Team punishment. He admitted he got a bonus but on the howard stern show a few weeks ago he said he made 200,000 for the fight itself. Quote I must have been thinking about something else, that fight was in 06, I've been knocked in the head too many times since then Are we talking about his most recent fight with Rashad Evans? Not exactly the best fights I've seen...so, what warrants a good pay then? Granted Tito is a veteran and has been promoting UFC from the start, he was fighting Evans!! He's climbing up the ladder again... I don't want to sound like an ungrateful fan. I know these athletes work their ass off to prepare for each competition but compensation is a complicated process.~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #23 February 22, 2008 There are different amount for each fight. If the UFC KNOWS that the fans are gonna sell their own kids to buy tickets the fighters of the main event should get a cut. The cheapest ticket to see a live fight in Vegas is $500. That's fucking lunacy to me. So figure it this way. th ethe mandalay bay event center holds 10,000 people and the tickets were all sold at (i'll go half) $250 each that it 2,500,000 JUST IN LIVE TICKET SALES. Never mind the PPV (Tito quoted something like $100,000,000 who watched the fight live) Merchandise sales (who knows how much$$) and misc income. That was for his last fight. I beleive you were right when you said Rashad was his last fight. 200,000 seems cheap to a guy who fought since the compnay was wrecked. I hear the new signers are getting better deals. Why would they shit on old employees?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chinagirl 0 #24 February 22, 2008 QuoteThere are different amount for each fight. If the UFC KNOWS that the fans are gonna sell their own kids to buy tickets the fighters of the main event should get a cut. The cheapest ticket to see a live fight in Vegas is $500. That's fucking lunacy to me. So figure it this way. th ethe mandalay bay event center holds 10,000 people and the tickets were all sold at (i'll go half) $250 each that it 2,500,000 JUST IN LIVE TICKET SALES. Never mind the PPV (Tito quoted something like $100,000,000 who watched the fight live) Merchandise sales (who knows how much$$) and misc income. That was for his last fight. I beleive you were right when you said Rashad was his last fight. 200,000 seems cheap to a guy who fought since the compnay was wrecked. I hear the new signers are getting better deals. Why would they shit on old employees? I don't think they are shitting on old employees, but a contract is a contract. That's why you should renegotiate when the time comes. In addition, these seasoned veterans make so much more in sponsorship than the newcomers... All I am saying is there is two sides to every story and compensation IS complicated!!! I am not taking sides...~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #25 February 22, 2008 Quote but a contract is a contract. [/url] True. [url]All I am saying is there is two sides to every story and compensation IS complicated!!! I am not taking sides... Neiter am I. I enjoy the fights and hope they settle it out. 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jtval 0 #19 February 22, 2008 I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Tito's was paid 200,000 for the fight. He made most of his money on merchandise. Team punishment. He admitted he got a bonus but on the howard stern show a few weeks ago he said he made 200,000 for the fight itself.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #20 February 22, 2008 I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Tito's was paid 200,000 for the fight. He made most of his money on merchandise. Team punishment. He admitted he got a bonus but on the howard stern show a few weeks ago he said he made 200,000 for the fight itself. Quote I must have been thinking about something else, that fight was in 06, I've been knocked in the head too many times since then History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #21 February 22, 2008 well, we could both be right. Tito's last fight wasn't with Chuck. He may have gotten 1.5mil for that fight. but even that is a slap in the face for two of the biggest names in UFC history. That had to be a cash cow (whatever the fuck that means) for the UFC.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chinagirl 0 #22 February 22, 2008 Quote I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Tito's was paid 200,000 for the fight. He made most of his money on merchandise. Team punishment. He admitted he got a bonus but on the howard stern show a few weeks ago he said he made 200,000 for the fight itself. Quote I must have been thinking about something else, that fight was in 06, I've been knocked in the head too many times since then Are we talking about his most recent fight with Rashad Evans? Not exactly the best fights I've seen...so, what warrants a good pay then? Granted Tito is a veteran and has been promoting UFC from the start, he was fighting Evans!! He's climbing up the ladder again... I don't want to sound like an ungrateful fan. I know these athletes work their ass off to prepare for each competition but compensation is a complicated process.~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #23 February 22, 2008 There are different amount for each fight. If the UFC KNOWS that the fans are gonna sell their own kids to buy tickets the fighters of the main event should get a cut. The cheapest ticket to see a live fight in Vegas is $500. That's fucking lunacy to me. So figure it this way. th ethe mandalay bay event center holds 10,000 people and the tickets were all sold at (i'll go half) $250 each that it 2,500,000 JUST IN LIVE TICKET SALES. Never mind the PPV (Tito quoted something like $100,000,000 who watched the fight live) Merchandise sales (who knows how much$$) and misc income. That was for his last fight. I beleive you were right when you said Rashad was his last fight. 200,000 seems cheap to a guy who fought since the compnay was wrecked. I hear the new signers are getting better deals. Why would they shit on old employees?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chinagirl 0 #24 February 22, 2008 QuoteThere are different amount for each fight. If the UFC KNOWS that the fans are gonna sell their own kids to buy tickets the fighters of the main event should get a cut. The cheapest ticket to see a live fight in Vegas is $500. That's fucking lunacy to me. So figure it this way. th ethe mandalay bay event center holds 10,000 people and the tickets were all sold at (i'll go half) $250 each that it 2,500,000 JUST IN LIVE TICKET SALES. Never mind the PPV (Tito quoted something like $100,000,000 who watched the fight live) Merchandise sales (who knows how much$$) and misc income. That was for his last fight. I beleive you were right when you said Rashad was his last fight. 200,000 seems cheap to a guy who fought since the compnay was wrecked. I hear the new signers are getting better deals. Why would they shit on old employees? I don't think they are shitting on old employees, but a contract is a contract. That's why you should renegotiate when the time comes. In addition, these seasoned veterans make so much more in sponsorship than the newcomers... All I am saying is there is two sides to every story and compensation IS complicated!!! I am not taking sides...~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #25 February 22, 2008 Quote but a contract is a contract. [/url] True. [url]All I am saying is there is two sides to every story and compensation IS complicated!!! I am not taking sides... Neiter am I. I enjoy the fights and hope they settle it out. I just hope that its not the first sign of the rats leaving the ship before it sinks.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
