LongWayToFall 0 #1 March 10, 2008 I am waiting for my rig to arrive, and these rental fees are killing me!!! Is it considered bad mojo to ask someone to borrow a spare rig? I would certainly be willing to give them some money/beer. What kind of compensation is reasonable, and what terms of borrowing are good ones? I would replace anything that got damaged, pay for reserve repack and new main if it was lost, etc. So, should I ask around the dz or just cut back on jumping until I get my own gear? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #2 March 10, 2008 Maybe it's just the people that I hang aqround with, but I've never had problems getting short term loaners. Heck, I kept DownwindDave's rig for a couple of months and had to just about fight him to let me buy him dinner for his trouble.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #3 March 11, 2008 Hum, well the people at my dz are pretty cool so I will ask some of the larger dudes, not many people jump a 210+!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #4 March 11, 2008 Im also looking for a loaner and in return are prepared to offer my dealer prices on a custom made rig. Favour for a favour right? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auburnguy 0 #5 March 11, 2008 35 jumps and your still jumping a 210? I only have 36 and I jump a pilot 168."If you don't like your job, you don't strike! You just go in every day, and do it really half assed. That's the American way." - Homer Simpson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #6 March 11, 2008 What does amount of jumps have to do with the size of a canopy someone jumps? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #7 March 11, 2008 Quote35 jumps and your still jumping a 210? I only have 36 and I jump a pilot 168. is that even remotely serious, if so go stand in front of a mirror and slap yourselfYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #8 March 11, 2008 Quote Quote 35 jumps and your still jumping a 210? I only have 36 and I jump a pilot 168. is that even remotely serious, if so go stand in front of a mirror and slap yourself LMAOThat's what I meant. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moto89 0 #9 March 11, 2008 Quote35 jumps and your still jumping a 210? I only have 36 and I jump a pilot 168. Dude.... how about no. Try again later.Less talking, more flying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cashmanimal 0 #10 March 11, 2008 QuoteQuote35 jumps and your still jumping a 210? I only have 36 and I jump a pilot 168. Dude.... how about no. Try again later. Maybe he only weighs 120? Geez. Why, I learned about this just the other day in my linguistics class. It's what we refer to as "Principle of Charity," where the "arguer is granted the strongest argument possible where supporting evidence is not blatantly evident." And upon reviewing his profile, it would seem that my sarcasm may prove slightly accurate as he claims to be jumping a 126 reserve to accompany that Pilot. My head is just swelling with knowledge.It's all fun and until someone loses an eye... then it's just a game to find the eye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #11 March 11, 2008 Fuck your rig looks super cool! I would do a few different things to by taking out some of the black personally. Fucking sweet colours though. Can you please post photos of the container, front and back. I think i just found a colour i am really liking for my next rig. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #12 March 11, 2008 People are not giving him a hard time for jumping a 168, eople are giving him a hard time for making out that others with his jump numbers should be on the same size as him when it has nothing to do with jump numbers. I was on a 170 straight off AFF but that does not mean everyone should be. Weight makes a huge difference. For him to talk like the other person is on a too bigg canopy is what people are reacting to. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #13 March 11, 2008 Quote For him to talk like the other person is on a too bigg canopy is what people are reacting to. For him to talk like he actually knows something about canopies at 36 jumps is pretty amazing I have over 800 jumps and know next to nothingYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #14 March 11, 2008 Quote Quote For him to talk like the other person is on a too bigg canopy is what people are reacting to. For him to talk like he actually knows something about canopies at 36 jumps is pretty amazing I have over 800 jumps and know next to nothing Yeah but when we say that there is always someone else who will then argue that they know more than you giving the advice. I tried to just explain what he was getting at. Anyone who thinks 30+ jumps mean they 'should' be on canopy smaller than a 190 has not been trained correctly about wingloadings. There are many jumpers out there who get instructed to jump a 170 and even a 150 straight off AFF.... and that is fine, they just need to know the reason they are told to jump these size canopies has nothing to do with their amount of jumps and more with wing loadings and wind levels so they will not be flying backwards cause they are so small. It is a shame that some people dont get taught about wingloadings towards the end of their AFF training. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannydan 5 #15 March 11, 2008 agreeing with BOTH you and snakebait above I have been around this sport since 97' with STILL under 100 jumps and flew my first 190 last year... Just depends on ONES comfort- 1-actually getting the nerve to goto the DZ 2-actually donning the rig on ones back! 3-actually getting on da' plane! 4-jumping out the freakin door! 5-BUT DAMMMMN....it feels sooooo GOOD!!! 8-So i/we do it AGAIN!!! Woo~freakin~Hoo.. All in all we are all different with different mindsets when doing this hobby/lifestyle/job! But I personnelly would never ask to borrow someone elses rig! If it was offered I would still hesitate... Like last year after my chop... A few rigs were offered and I said thanks but no because I did not want to be responsible for messing it uP if anything were to happen on any particular dive!! So I bought a cheapo like 2weeks later! NOW I have TWO rigs! Make that three by the end of this season when i get my first tailored rig for ME!!! Everyone of is DIFFERENT in someway shape or form! peace :DD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #16 March 11, 2008 I understand, Different mindsets. Personally, I have always had one of my rigs out on loan to someone. So asking about borrowing a rig i am comfortable with, However i would not expect to be able to borrow a new rig. I am sure if someone ever did loan me a rig they would also know that they would get alot from myself in return. Anyway, i just sold my rigs last year due to moving to a different country and having to buy furniture/house etc..... I am the last person who should not have a rig at the moment considering i sell rigs and canopies full time .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #17 March 11, 2008 Quote35 jumps and your still jumping a 210? I only have 36 and I jump a pilot 168. Didn't I read in the Incidents forum that you got injured on a landing and can't jump right now? I hope you heal quickly.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannydan 5 #18 March 11, 2008 screw the furniture..... rest yr head on the reservr, wrap uP in the MAIN and yr good to go!l8r.... off to the jobsite I go to pay my taxes to not fix the potholes on the roads I drive on to work so i can pay my taxes.... etc etc etc... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #19 March 11, 2008 Quote Quote 35 jumps and your still jumping a 210? I only have 36 and I jump a pilot 168. Didn't I read in the Incidents forum that you got injured on a landing and can't jump right now? I hope you heal quickly. Skymama, that's a big stick you use to stir the potHeal quick mate! .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #20 March 11, 2008 Quote Skymama, that's a big stick you use to stir the pot I'm just sayin'...She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #21 March 11, 2008 Any chance you have a link? .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #23 March 11, 2008 Ouch Fractured Pelvis. That really sucks. Hope you heal fast mate and are enjoying the drugs. Feel for you mate. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannydan 5 #24 March 11, 2008 sounds like the "pills" could be the bigger focus here............... I'm just saying!maybe a 230 would have helped that "burble" of wind gust!?!?! But really, i wish a speedy recovery dude!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerRoo 0 #25 March 11, 2008 Quote Quote Skymama, that's a big stick you use to stir the pot I'm just sayin'... I love you guys, (I.C.D#2 VP) ""I'm good with my purple penis straw" ~sky mama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites